You've got it backwards, friend. A subjective observation: "Rudy Gay is about to show the world he's on Durant's level" An objective one: Rudy Gay is slightly less productive in his 6th season than he was in his 2nd season.
you would then also have to increase Augustin's sample size to make things equatable, which is impossible, which is why I did not do it. I'm assuming you based your sample size on the younger player's career, just as I did. OOOPS Still, Nash and Augustin have performed very differently in their first 4 years (do you disagree with that?) just as Gay and KVH performed differently. The clear point here is that while statistical analysis is great, stats without context are irrelevant.
pmac Buddy, we can EASILY double or triple Augustin's sample size. Bookmark this thread and come back in a few years. Do you want to bet me that he isn't able to match Nash's achievements in that time frame when he finally gets up to 14,000 minutes or so? If he even gets there? Because that's a bet I'm willing to make, I'll give you serious odds. $10 bet to the tipjar for you vs. $100 for me? Not that differently in aggregate. Isn't that the point of why you posted it? The problem is that you took a much smaller, spottier sample size and put it on par with Gay & KVH. It's fucntionally not much different than me taking a few nights that LaBradford Smith kicked Jordan's ass, and then saying it contradicts their career stat comparison. Obviously it doesn't. No, because Gay and KVH haven't performed differntly at all while in the same role over a more similar, and substantially larger, sample size.
OK. The actual point of posting that was that I believe in 4 years those 2 players had similar stats but different levels of effectiveness. Apparently, you think otherwise.
There was literally nothing objective in fadeaway's post. I'm not saying he's wrong or that I disagree, but they're just his opinions.
I do think otherwise. Neither of them was particularly effective. If Nash was so much more effective than Augustin, Phoenix wouldn't have traded him for Pat Garrity. Though it bears noting that Nash's stats are distorted by an aberrational shooting year as a 3d year player. You're going to see aberrations like that a lot - when you use artificially small sample sizes like you did. Again you didn't answer me, do you think when Augustin reaches the 14,000 minute plateau, he will look similar to Nash still? Or will he look more like Augustin. How about Gay? Will he look more like Rudy Gay or Keith Van Horn over the next 14,000 minutes, or more like LeBron James or Kevin Durant?
