He has the lowest ceiling and is the worst shooter. Rubio has already had a lot of pro and international experience before coming over.
How about this: Rubio v Lin - Rubio Rubio v Irving - Irving Irving v Lin - Lin The new rock paper scissors of basketball!
Lowest ceiling? You on crack? How is more experience a negative exactly? He has the best court vision of the three, probably the best defender. His shooting needs work but how does he have the lowest ceilling?
Because he's already faced this level of competition so I'm not saying he won't get better but the other two are just starting to realize their potential. Why do you think the Giants drafted JPP after only playing a few years of football. That's why underclassmen are thought to have higher ceilings than seniors.
Dumbest thing I have ever heard. Yes the Giants did draft JPP due to potential but it isn't because he has less experience. It really is because he is young and has a ton of potential. Rubio is 22 years old and you are saying he has realized his potential? That does not even make sense.
Debuted in 2005 at the age of 15. There really is nobody you can compare him to. Closest would be Kobe who started playing pro at the age of 17. And Kobe at the age of 22 had far more potential than any college senior at the age of 22.
I know when Rubio turned pro and I know his Euro stats just wanted to point out he's been a pro a long time already. He shot poorly there and continues to shoot poorly here. His ceiling is lower, that's all I'm saying, doesn't mean he's not a very good PG. He hasn't reached his potential but is much closer to it than Irving and Lin.
1. Rubio is close to his ceiling. He's got the most experience and has proven he can play in the NBA. Now, I don't think he'll progress much in the next few years. At best, a solid starter that does his job well, but not All-Star level 2. Irving has show us more consistency and ability this season so far so he obviously gets the "best overall" award. 3. Lin has had the best 4 games stretch out of anyone in the NBA and has played out of this world. The question is, can he sustain for the rest of the season and make a difference. If he can, by the end of the season, there is no doubt he will be the best out of the three. He has the highest potential out of the mix. The kid may be All-Star in a year or two if he continues to develop.
I've got to side with bleedrocketsred here. Since when has experience been a bad thing? Rubio is a good defender and has superb court vision, something that cannot be taught. The main thing he's lacking is a consistent shot which he will develop with more even more experience, j kidd style
Not saying experience is a bad thing. Just talking about ceiling and potential. It's not like I'm saying he's not talented but much of his upside has been reached.
I'm glad Anthony and Stoudemire are coming back soon though. That way, Lin won't be as ridden as Secretariat was. Freakin' D'Antoni.
You are saying that because of his experience, his ceiling is lower. I am saying, he is still 22 years old and has ways to go before we can make that conclusion. I will admit that because of his experience, his game has developed better (intangibles, poise, ability to handle pressure). I do not agree that it results in a lower ceiling. Other players his age are developing things which come naturally to him. How is his ceiling lower than other players of his age?
Because they're just beginning to experience this level of competition where Rubio has been already doing it for a long time. Scouts compare years and levels of competition when evaluating a player. That's why JPP was picked, he barely started playing organized football just a few years ago.
Your logic is not flowing. Less years of playing and worse competition is NOT an advantage by any means of the imagination. Yes, scouts do compare years of playing/level com competition/etc. BUT they do not draw the same conclusions as you. JPP was picked due to his potential. His physical tools, his natural talent. He was not picked because he is new to the sport. That is ridiculous. Jordan Hill started playing during his junior year of HS, drafted 7th overall after his junior year of college. Does that mean Jordan Hill has more upside than anybody in the NBA? Should he have gone first overall? No, Hill was picked due to natural talent and the progress he had made in little time in Arizona (unfortunately, while Hill works hard, we have seen first hand that he didn't have the talent scouts thought he had).
he can't shoot and finish on drives like the other 2. in other words he can't score. and i don't see that change any time soon. name me an elite PG that can't score at all. he can pass better that's about the only thing going for him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/sports/football/12giants.html He was playing great and didn't know anything.
Jason Kidd (though Kidd did shoot well in clutch situations). Rubio is more than a better passer: -He has superior vision -He is better at managing the game (DECISION MAKING) -He is better at stealing -He is a superior overall defensive player (his defensive +/- is omg) He is a better all-around PG.
