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[Epic Movie] The Hobbit: Part 1 (coming December 2012)

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  1. ROXTXIA

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    No, he didn't show that he had aged some sixty years. He went from 50-ish (a hobbit's "30's", more or less) to 111 but looked as if he'd aged half as much.

    God, I am such a muhf***in' nerd. Reminds me of how Michael Scott used to bash Dwight Schrute.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    I googled after I posted. Where did you get the half aged thing?

    http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Bilbo_Baggins
     
  3. Yonkers

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    You never seen

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  4. rimbaud

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    Didn't you notice that funny/stupid part from the first movie? During the prologue introduction they show Bilbo finding the ring - he is made up and has his hair colored to look younger. Then the grey haired, older Bilbo is seen once the movie starts and the first thing Gandalf says to him is "you haven't aged a bit". It made no sense whatsoever.

    I didn't care for the trilogy much after the first one which annoyed me a little but I still found to be enjoyable. Overall, I felt Jackson made a lot of stupid/annoying decisions for the three movies and I guess they just added up to me feeling apathetic about them. So I am apathetic about The Hobbit.
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    lol it's called being polite.

    As for the book, it is obviously implied that use of the ring slows one's aging process. It's one of the things (IIRC) that makes Gandalf suspicious at the beginning of the FotR. I suspect they're using a "younger" look simply for the sake of the movie.
     
  6. dmc89

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    Wow most fans of the book love PJ's work even though it's different from Tolkien's version. I cherish the film trilogy as much as the original Star Wars'. Can you elaborate which changes under PJ irked you the most?

    I don't think a 1:1 ratio of book:major film is possible unless you make a high budget mini-series. Even with a 3+ hour long movie, I think PJ largely kept the main structure of the novel intact. Frankly, once the soundtrack and haunting score kicks in, and I take in a beautifully constructed view of Middle Earth with Alan Lee himself as the consultant, I can forgive PJ for omitting Crickhollow, Bombadil in the Old Forest, and the Barrow Downs.

    The films really captured Lee's paintings:
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  7. ROXTXIA

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    I wasn't being literal. Or I didn't explain myself well. I think 60 some odd years passed between The Hobbit and LOTR. In that time, he looked like he aged much less than the 60 yrs that passed. There was nothing specific mentioned in the books.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    This is a geek tangent but the Tolkein story I really like seen made into a movie is the story of Turin Turamber. It is set in the same Universe as LOTR except in the first age of the Middle Earth. It is probably Tolkein's darkest story and one that would fit with the more complicated view of heroism that we currently have since the hero isn't purely good
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    Turin would be good and it's compact enough to be movie-able. The silmaril saga would be so epic on screen, but it's just too dense and the timeframe is really long. You would need to edit it a lot. I suppose you could pick stories from it too, like the fall of Gondolin or Beren and Luthien.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    The trouble with doing the whole Silmaril saga is that the amount of exposition and keep it interesting for a film audience. Taking particular stories might be a cool way to do it.
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Yeah, but some of those scenes would be so incredible. Thangorodrim in the background, balrogs and elves all over the place...

    Morgoth vs Fingolfin. Goodness that would be epic.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Yeah, it would be epic alright. That would be awesome to watch if done by Jackson or another great director capable of dealing with the epic scale. If it was done as a series of movies each one could provide a little of the exposition that would make the later movies easier to do. I would love someone to tackle it.
     
  13. dmc89

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    A series of movies would be too difficult to make or produce. I think a high quality mini-series would be better.

    The scale of fortresses like Utumno and Angband; the battles with Valar, Balrogs, dragons, and thousands of elves would dwarf anything in LOTR.
     
  14. getsmartnow

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    peeps getting' some serious geek on in here.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Well that video looked great. I'm officially psyched about this movie now. The locations looked amazing.
     
  17. rimbaud

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    I am late in replying but you asked so I will do it now in case you check back. Also keep in mind ihave not really watched the movies since they came out and the first is the only one I watched more than once.

    I liked the first best. I guess because it was the most story like. I liked the use of sound and light (things like the ring making a huge clang when dropped and the light with the prancing pony to the dwarf undermountain city. I did not like that the hobbits were mostly dumb comic relief since they are supposed to be the heroes but was able to look past it and overall enjoy the first.

    The second had a lot of contrivances like Aragorn falling over the cliff and stupid elves suddenly showing up for a battle and one of them dying in slow mo as if we should care just because it was the same actor from the first movie. Ents were poorly done. Climactic battle buildup was too slow with lots of dragging "woe are we who go to battle" talks. Then the battle is just a bunch of cliches via cgi. Soulless video game action.

    Third movie is more of the same - just a bunch of extended video game action and hammy choices. Sure a LOTR trilogy insists on CGI but it seemed to be that Jackson needed a better editor and he made a lot of little stupid decisions that added up. Also, why is it that once Gandalf went white he almost never used magic? He is a wizard archetype but when faced with overwhelming enemy numbers he just hits things with his staff. In the first movie he had a magic Kung Fu battle with Saruman and then took on the Balrog but by the end he is just bludgeoning orca and things. Pretty sure people would have been yelling at him to DO something.

    I thought scenes with Bilbo and Sam were slow and monotonous. Towards the end he went for cheap tear strings but whatever. The ending was further annoying. Frodo wakes up and gets a parade of character appearances to remind everyone who was in the fellowship. Character enters, Frodo smiles, character gives slow knowing grin and runs to bed to hug, then repeat with all of them. Like Wizard of Oz "and you were there! And you!" etc. And didn't the hobbits even jump on the bed like girls at a slumber party?

    Bleh. The whole series wasn't negative but those are negatives that I can remember and, again, it all added up to me thinking it was alright but disappointing and I have not had the patience/stamina/desire to watch the whole thing over.
     
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    I've always thought it would make a good mini series or premium cable series.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, that I would like to see. I agree.
     
  20. percicles

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    If the resolution is anything like that display Plasma at Fry's by the Blurays i will disappoint.

     

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