Whats better for the future of the Franchise? Being 3-5 seed/Tanking & Lottery Pick.

unless you have a roster full of carmelos, it's not even worth playing the games. I don't care if we have the no.1 seed! Tank!

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knee jerk and react

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Solution is win, and make deals to improve by filling in the holes where we are lacking (SF and C). Dalembert alone as probably added a win or 2, not because he is that good but because it was filling in a real important role that we didn't have being fulfilled.

I was all for tanking after our early bad start, but once I realised we had no chance of out-tanking the worst in the league and were actually a half decent team I think we gotta win and make moves at the deadline.

And yes, lottery is a total gamble.

1984 - 2008 Draft Selections - AllNBA / AllStar rate (25 years)

AllNBA AllStar
Pick 1 16(64%) 18(72%)
Pick 2 6(24%) 9(36%)
Pick 3 9(36%) 12(48%)
Pick 4 6(24%) 10(40%)
Pick 5 8(32%) 11(44%)
Pick 6 1(4%) 6(24%)
Pick 7 3(12%) 5(20%)
Pick 8 2(32%) 2(8%)
Pick 9 4(16%) 7(28%)
Pick 10 3(12%) 6(24%)

Top5 45(36%) 60(48%)
Next5 13(10%) 26(21%)

Top10% 23.2% 34.4%

(sorry if thats hard to read)

 

What top free agents are you guys talking about Dwight, Dwill..lol...don't make me laugh...these guys have it written into their shoe contracts that if they play for a top 5 media market they get more money...also, stars want to play with other stars...a team with zero stars has zero chance of landing a star free agent...Lowry, Martin, or Scola aren't even seen as "star" players. rockets are better of tanking if they want a championship...this team will compete hard but, will remain in mediocreville.

 

not picking on you, personally, but this line is tired and overused. every strategy, including doing nothing, is a total gamble if the goal is to be a real championship contender.

 

OK fine put it that way. I'll put it this way.

Trading for measurable talent (based off nba performance) instead of picking in the draft based on potential carries less risk.

It's a bad idea to attempt to tank (i.e. play a weaker lineup, trade your best players off) when you just aren't that bad, because you encourage a losing mentality, and you still might not end up with a top 5 pick.

 

The only thing I hate more than threads like this are the r****ded ass responses. I just can`t get over how a 'so-called' Rockets fan can actually sit in front of the tv and cheer for the other team to win just so the rockets will have a top five pick. Never in my life have I rooted for the other team. During the end of the 2002 season when the coaching staff benched Steve and Cuttino, it became quite obvious that the team was deliberately tanking, so I simply did not watch the games. I would read the box scores in the papers the next day and be happy the team got what they wanted. But HELLO!!! We are currently number 4 in the western conference and rising!!!! We have a very legitimate shot at getting the number 2 seed if we win the division which is a very real possibility!! 2 and 2 against the division leading Spurs, and only about 2 games out of 1st place in the division!!

 

Not true. In the last 20 years the only two teams that have won a championship without their best player being a lottery pick are the Pistons and Lakers. You can pretty much count out the Lakers because they only got Shaq because of their location which isn't possible for us. Nothing in NBA history supports people's contentions that success is easier achieved through trades and free agency.

 

I don't understand how some of you guys wanna tank. Were playing decent basketball and could have a good shot at making the play offs. Play offs mean more money for the rockets(or les) and give our guys play off experience. Timberwolves,clippers(untill recently),wizards,bucks, Golden state have all been trash for years even with top 10 picks. Like other people have said in other theards winning makes our players vaules go up.. look what it did to z-bo dude was a cancer for years and now he had a great year and play-off run and hes claimed as untouchable. seriously??

 

We weren't seeded any higher than this at mid season, during the T-Mac/Yao era. The 22 game streak came after the All-Star break. Why weren't these same people calling for us to tank then too? We weren't really any better then, with two stars and a bad supporting cast. Enjoy it now, its Rockets basketball.

 

What?!...Two stars and bad bench>>> no stars and good bench...we had a very good bench..Landry, Brooks, Artest>>> current bench...Only 1 team has won a championship without a superstar and that was the Pistons...and that was a team full of all-stars...rockets only have 1 all-star caliber player and that's Lowry....i want to tank cause I want a championship..this is a stars league..refs are biased in favor of star players!

 

What if we try to get picks from a team like the Kings who needs vets more than anything?

 

It is a bit late in the day to join the tanking race, no? Look at where teams like NOR and CHA are.

 

The Rockets are in the same class as teams like the Nuggets, Sixers, and even Portland to a certain extent. Are their fans chanting to tank the season???

I would bet money that its nowhere near the pro-tanking attitude found here in the Houston.

Houston has become STAR CRAVED and its coming from the top all the way down to the bottom. Les wants a star just as bad as the fans that want to tank all the way to the bottom to get one in the draft. Its just that Les/Morey want to get one a different way.

IMO, being this desperate for someone who gets the "star" attention could ultimately lead to making bad personnel decisions and ultimately set the team even further back if it fails.

I would much rather the team continue to grow their young players, promote players on the national scene like Lowry, weed out those who cant cut it, and make smart aquisitions. It makes no sense to blow it up with this roster. There is just too much talent and quality to not believe that this team can do something special, and in the process be aggresive to upgrade the team whenever possible.

 

If rockets want a star Les better get ready to SPEND....Harden is a will be free agent Oklahoma can't afford to resign him...that the player you go after..and build around him...rockets best bet is to sign and up and comer...but it won't be cheap!!!...those that think a established superstar wants to come here are delusional...Stars want to play with other Stars!!...Either Tank or Spend..to bring an up and coming star!!...That's rockets only hope

 

If I'm a superstar do I wanna sign with a mediocre team on a hot streak...Nope

 

Win.

Big time no brainer.

You don't want to establish a culture of losing.

 

I was pro-tanking, but it is too late now. The only way to guarantee a top 5 pick now would be to lose 20 games in a row, which is impossible. A pro-tanking strategy would have had to begin at least 10 games ago.

Our only bet at this point is to play to win. Maybe we'll get lucky, win a playoff round, and then land Dwight Howard. Maybe.

In any case, it has been fun seeing the team play well these past few weeks.

 

Spending has nothing to do with it. Les has always paid the max for star quality players in the past. They offered the max to Marc Gasol this summer mind you, so they might even be willing to spend for 2nd tier stars for all we know. The Rockets just dont overpay for role players rightfully.

Sam Presti will look to trade Harden out of conference before they let him walk for nothing. They can still milk another year out of him next season then after that trade him in the summer for tons of assets. Either that or trade Westbrook if things pan out.

He has a qualifying offer for 2013/14 which is sure to be picked up. I think the Rockets will be high enough in the West before that summer for OKC to consider trading him to the Rockets for competitive reasons.

 

When did making the playoffs become the end-all, be-all for Rockets fans? This is what I'm talking about when I talk about the state of the franchise. In a league where more teams make the playoffs than don't, it's embarassing for a once-proud franchise to relish in being nothing more than a team that finds its way into the tournament of teams that don't suck.

If you're satisfied with being good...then I get it. If you're hoping they'll aspire for great, then a playoff appearance isn't the goal.

 

that seems logical in the past nba seasons, but now stars want conglomerates of superstars before they even consider a team. Its like aau or college basketball.