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BS or True: Stereotyping Has Lasting Negative Impact

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. Rocket River

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    http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/08/12/stereotyping-has-lasting-negative-impact

    You agree . . or think this is BS

    Rocket River
     
  2. torque

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    Agree, just like bullying, sexual abuse, taunting, hazing, etc have listing negative effects. This should be obvious by now.
     
  3. Nook

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    Interesting article... Good topic RR. Yes I believe it can have an effect, and has an effect across a macro level. I don't think it should be used as an excuse though.. However it is a reality and I am not sure how we can improve it.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't know if it has a lasting negative impact, but I bet it can. That's especially true if it happens during the more formative years of a person's life.

    While the article talked about personal lingering effects, there is an even worse societal lingering effect that happens.

    I've said the story before, but I'll repeat it now. I had the opportunity to meet and talk with a holocaust survivor a few years ago.

    What he said was basically that stereotypes made the holocaust as much as Hitler did.

    Hitler carried things out and gave the orders but people accepted it because for hundreds of years there were all these stereotypes about jews. Those stereotypes were common, open, and believed to varying degrees by most people in Europe and even in the US. Some believed they were absolutely true, others would say, "Well it may not be that bad, but there is some truth behind the stereotypes. It couldn't have come from nowhere."

    That kind of stuff created an atmosphere that made it OK to treat Jews differently than non-Jews and easier for the average person to believe the worst propaganda about them. There's a reason why Henry Ford with every single auto he sold put out a book talking about how bad Jews were. It came free with every single Ford sold, and if you know anything about American auto makers at the time, Ford was pretty much it. Very few people thought twice about it.

    Some people would say at the time, "That isn't true, but what's the big deal about these things." Yet the stereotypes went on, and according to that holocaust survivor without those stereotypes the holocaust would have never been allowed to happen. That's true even though most people didn't know about the death camps. But the ghettos, taking Jews away etc. would have never been allowed to happen except for the centuries of prejudice and stereotypes that were allowed to seep into mainstream society.

    Talking with that man changed the way I look at even supposedly harmless stereotypes.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Of course it does.

    DD
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    I can believe sterotyping to have a lasting negative impact on performance, but I'm skeptical of the study. It is probably too nuanced a subject to recreate in an experiment. Results are still interesting.
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    By and large, courtesy of the church.

    Good post.
     
  8. Nook

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    Ehh I am going to leave this alone other than to say the Church's policy is a reflection of common held beliefs at the time...
     
  9. justtxyank

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    That's silly
     
  10. DaDakota

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    No it isn't a lot of prejudices and bias started directly from the church, which are the leaders of many communities, right there on the front line of biases !

    DD
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Well it is established on this BBS that you are against this church. It's also established that you are racist. So...what's your excuse?

    :p
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    I totally agree with your post but the experiment was addressing individual behavior of members of the stereotyped group not the behavior of the society towards the group stereotyped.
     
  13. rhadamanthus

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    It's the other way around.

    Absolutely not. It is almost unarguable fact.

    As this is a sidebar however, I'll avoid further comment. If you'd like to talk about it, I'm always willing to take a look at emails (or a different thread).
     
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    I once played basketball and sucked because of racist heckling. Like Jeremy Lin, but I didn't tough it out like he did.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    I know, I mentioned that at the start of my post. I even commented on the individual effects might be, and gave my opinion. I just used it as segue to the other issue. Forgive me if I've accidentally derailed the thread.
     
  16. Gutter Snipe

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    Expectations impact performance. That's obvious.

    However, I have a problem with the study and this thread in where it blurs and tries to make stereotyping = prejudice.

    Prejudice is hating or disliking someone because of some arbitrary group they happen to belong to (usually a different group than you are in).

    Stereotyping is making assumptions about a person because of what group they belong to (whether it's race, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or cultural group). Sometimes it is because of actions a person has taken or a small sample of performance.

    It can be useful for snap judgements, but if you have an important decision to make, you need to go deeper and should probably think about what stereotypes you are carrying into the decision-making process and try and discard them.
     
  17. javal_lon

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    Everyone stereotypes ... So why the self-righteous talk??.... it isn't right but it's necessary sometimes... Especially as a minority....
     

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