Morey would be crazy to include the Knicks' pick for anything less than Gordon. But i wouldn't mind throwing in Patterson and Dragic (UFA) for the Minny pick. Even if it's fools gold, we could package it with the Knicks' pick for a real chance at a top 7 player.
I wouldn't want them on the court at the same time, only because that would mean more minutes that Kaman could be risking on opportunity to get re-injured. He should have his minutes limited the way we were gonna try with Yao once he fully returned from foot surgery.
NO! We need the 1st round pick. Plus, NO is going to give up Gordon. They plan on building around him. And Landry, uhm...we have to many players at the 4 spot. No room. There is no reason to throw in a pick.
He's an expiring contract, and if we're only giving up Hill/Thabeet then the only reason is to win more games this year. I don't see any other larger purpose to it.
The way the article put it they were just suggesting to what other assets we could offer for Kaman, not what we would offer. It sounds like this deal is centered around Thabeet and Hill nothing more than a 2nd rounder if a pick is involved, I would say. Pump your brakes fellas. Spoiler Spoiler
NO! We need the 1st round pick. Plus, NO is NOT going to give up Gordon. They plan on building around him. And Landry, uhm...we have to many players at the 4 spot. No room. There is no reason to throw in a pick.
never said that's what they were doing, so you can save it...i was responding to a specific post where someone suggested it.
There's no way Morey would give them the NYC pick, especially in a deal for Kaman/expiring. We only part with that pick for a star. Thabeet, Hill, and either Flynn or T-Will sounds good. I don't really want to trade Williams because I still think he can be a player in this league, but it seems the Rockets are determined not to play him so it doesn't even matter. Why did we trade a first rounder for him again?
Not that I think it should be done, because I dont. However, the 2012 Knicks pick is way overvalued on this board. I have a hard time believing that the Knicks wont pull it together at some point and get in the playoffs. The East is just too bad, and they have too much talent. Let me rephrase the question - If you knew the Knicks were going to make the playoffs and the pick would be the 15th at best, would you trade it for Kaman then??? That being said, I know how Morey plays hardball with trades and he isnt going to throw in the 2012 pick for Kaman alone. Morey than likely Morey will try and get a third team involved to get the Hornets a pick and possibly move some other players to that third team for the pick.
One of these things is not the same as the others. In any case, if the pieces listed first are Thabeet and Hill, I doubt Patterson or the NY pick will be "also included" as secondary pieces. They are assets that the Hornets will no doubt want, doesn't mean they are gonna get it. In any case, it's up to the other teams to decide whether they want to out-bid what is being offered.
my answer is no. i would rather roll the dice with the 15th pick than use it to acquire Kaman at this point.
currently the knicks pick is valuable bc they are out of the playoffs. however with them being only 1.5 games out of the playoffs and the teams ahead of them being boston, milwalkee and cleveland, it is not a stretch to assume they will get their ship pointed in the right direction and make it to the playoffs at which time that pick becomes not as valuable bc then it becomes like the 16-17 pick.
No way he give them the pick. Maybe Budinger since he's been hot lately. Morris is the future at 3 anyways. I'd rather lose Bud than Patterson. Losing Patterson in this trade would be a huge loss unless they give us Aminu.
You weren't the only one suggesting that it was a possibility so it wasn't solely directed towards you. So no thanks.
My preference is that we find a way to parlay the 09ers into a draft pick. Even if its just a second rounder, at least its something. Making a trade to improve our record this year and not improve the future is just ... meh.
i wasn't suggesting it as a possiblity at all...responding to those who were. i don't see morey doing that...which is why i posted what i did.
I wouldn't do it at the price of our only 2012 first (the Knicks first) but if we could nab Kaman for just Thabeet, Hill and maybe something else then that would be incredible. I thought Kaman's beef with New Orleans was the lack of playing time and if we do land him then he is going to be backing up Dalembert. Either way it would be a good move on the Rockets' part.
