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[Video] Rick Adelman says he never got calls from Rockets owner

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. thetatomatis

    thetatomatis Member

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    He always waits until they old or hurt their value. Nearly walking on one leg. Kevin Martin career year last year and Luis Scola on a non contending team where the coach ends up leaving anyways and we still dont make the playoffs?

    Moreys mind??? "I will just wait until next year!" Ughhugh!

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  2. thetatomatis

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    Goofiest GM in Rockets history. Got played by David Stern and had no contingency plan for Nene. Then missed out on the second and third options too. Lost Chuck Hayes in this offseason. After the embarrassing Chris Bosh fiasco and Carmelo failed plans of last couple of years.

    Which made him look like this and the Rockets organization as proxy.
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  3. durvasa

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    I don't agree. The Rockets have "won" most of their trades (i.e. they've either brought in better players then they were giving up when in win-now mode, or they've improved their talent in recent years) since Morey too over. This is easy enough to demonstrate.

    Regarding Battier, we basically turned an aging role player with an expiring deal and Brad Miller into Donatas Motiejunas. Thabeet wasn't the primary target.

    I'm wondering, what exactly were you expecting for Battier?
     
  4. thetatomatis

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    Donatus Montajunas right now is nothing. Until he is something Morey is 0-for the century on most trades. So what he got Artest? All he did was get Ariza for him and send him to the Lakers so he could help them win a championship and us end up with Courtney Lee the backup guard after all that.
     
  5. thetatomatis

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    D-Mo or Marcus Morris gonna play? Doesnt look like it. With not moving Scola looks like they have no future plans for D-mo at his position with Patterson already here and Marcus Morris already here. Who also have Budinger and Scola both still in their way. No plan in place. Its a bag of mixed goods right now.
     
  6. durvasa

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    Scola. Lowry. Artest. Martin. Jordan Hill. Knicks #1.

    Assets he acquired through trade basically using: Spanoulis, Alston, Donte Green, McGrady (senior citizen version), Carl Landry, and some cash.

    You really think the rest of the league is looking at Morey and thinking to themselves "Here's a guy who gives up his players for nothing."? I don't.
     
  7. thetatomatis

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    HEck he was gonna trade Scola and or Martin anyways. Why not package Battier and or Brooks in one of those deals and made one of those mega deals for the star he wanted back then? Ever ask yourself that? Just one year later he was gonna trade Scola or Martin anyways. Why all these micro transactions of Battier for nearly nothing, Brooks for a little bit more, and then Scola and Martin seperately? Cant he just put these things all together for one big deal?
     
  8. DreamShook

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    It's really that easy! God job! I'm about to click over to Monster and see if there are any GM jobs available; seems anybody and everybody can do it.
     
  9. thetatomatis

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    Lets do the math just the past few years of players we lost and you tell me we cant get two stars or semi stars back with them or a top draft pick.

    Brooks
    Scola
    Martin
    Chuck Hayes
    Battier
    Twills 1st round pick

    You are telling me he cant just turn these guys into two very solid draft picks or very good players? Ultimately he ended up losing them all anyways. Whats he been doing if he is not willing to move them and then lose some of them anyways the very next year?
     
  10. RV6

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    People forget Jerry West would have taken Morrison in that draft if he had his way. From his end, he got a good deal for Gay, but let's not act like he's a flawless evaluator of talent, at least compared to Morey.

    That night could have easily finished with Morrison as a Grizz and Roy as a Rocket.
     
  11. thetatomatis

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    If its too hard for him. I really dont care about the snarky excuses why he couldnt do it by now. its not an excuse just because i am not a GM at this point anymore.
     
  12. thetatomatis

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    Give someone else the job if its too hard to turn all these guys into something. If you are gonna make a move on them the very next year or lose them anyways at least have the balls to turn them all into one good move or player before that happens. Not a bunch of micro transactions and losses.
     
  13. durvasa

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    I'm not interested in trying to explain why some hypothetical super-mega trade didn't happen already. That discussion leads no where and proves nothing.

    I'm disagreeing with your point that the rest of the league thinks the Rockets are pushovers based on their trade history. Anybody can easily look at their recent trades and see they've usually gotten good value for what they were giving up.
     
  14. thetatomatis

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    Thats the point. Not good value for Battier or Brooks. Ultimately we gave up Brooks for a backup when Brooks was a starter. Mostly because morey allowed Brooks value to drop like he always does as GM before he makes a move. Then Battier we could have gotten more had we packaged him with someone else. There are no big moves here. These are all crumbs off the table. none of them are building talent according to clutchfans on this very site the Twolves have a brighter future and made better moves. According to these same fans Moreys hands are tied because he has what nobody wants now.
     
  15. thetatomatis

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    If they are so good then you should agree he can offer something and get something back very good right? I will ask for the reason why he couldnt when the deadline passes. Some of you will say he didnt have anything other GMs did not want. In that conversation the truth will come out again if he doesnt get something done with his built up "assets".
     
  16. heypartner

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    Did he say that before the draft or after. GMs use smokescreens all the time leading up to draft day, in hopes they can sucker someone into making a bad pick ahead of them.
     
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    Until you can prove that we could have gotten more for Brooks/Battier than Dragic/Donuts, everything you say here is made up nonsense.

    Did you see the deals that were available last season?

    Pure conjecture...
     
  18. JayZ750

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    I agree that the dude is generally way off base. but here, his argument is that Morey maybe could have traded Brooks in the offseason and gotten more. To that, I agree..he maybe could have done that.
     
  19. durvasa

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    You're mistaking being a good GM with being a good Jedi. Contrary to popular belief, Morey is not in fact a Wizard. He can't just get something very good with a wave of his hand. He also can't read the future. For example, he didn't have a crystal ball to tell him that Aaron Brooks, fresh of an MIP season, would have his trade value plummet like a rock in a matter of a couple months.

    You say that makes him a bad GM. I say it means he doesn't have supernatural powers. Not everyone is blessed with your "power of hindsight".
     
  20. thetatomatis

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    Your defense is I cant prove the alternate scenario just because it sounds too good to be true to you? Nice defense. Very good rebuttal. I cant prove that Morey is a bad GM but I can prove he is a average GM by our record. I can prove he has no Superstar. I can prove when you answer this question come the trade deadline whether people wanted what Morey has for the teams future. It can be proven by happens this deadline.
     

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