Rudy Gay's about to show the world he's on Durant's level

Whatever Rudy Gay does, I just hope the Grizzlies keep losing. Looks like Z-Bo is pretty doubtful to come back this season.

 

That's bad news, but with the time frame initially mentioned, there was little chance Z-Bo would return by playoff time.

This really stinks for the Grizzlies.

 

Worst part about that is they aren't that great when Zbo and Rudy Gay play together.

 

I meant best not worst

 

The injury happened on January 1 and they said he would be out up to 8 weeks. I'm a little surprised.

 

Yikes, I meant to type return to form by playoff time.

 

Looking more and more like a stat padder.

 

Maybe u ought to try watching the game vs reading boxscores. You and jimraynor should hang out at a sports bar or something

 

^The anti-intellectualism in your post is really amusing.

Sports bars can be fun. I'd never pretend that it's a substitute for careful analysis, the way you seem to think it is. "Watching the game" is basically a code word for "I'm too lazy to run the numbers."

If I were hired by the team to analyze the games, I wouldn't even watch the games live. They'd be recorded on DVD, and I would painstakingly watch and rewatch every play. Recording every piece of relevant information on every play. I probably wouldn't be able to do it alone, which is why teams like the Rockets have entire crews of people working on analysis these days.

It would NOT be fun. It would be work. And when all the work is done, it would result in...stats. And I know that in your world view "stats" is a dirty word, but I'd like to see you explain how you'd do a better job without bothering to quantify things. And no, insisting that Rudy Gay really truly is "clutch" just because you say so doesn't count.

Fortunately, we already have professionals doing the stat work that regular fans don't have time for. 82games, Synergy, etc. all do a valuable service, which the NBA teams are even taking seriously these days.

Which is why it's so arrogant when somebody thinks that their casual perception of the game (over beer and chips while hanging with the guys) is superior to the actual WORK that people put into this. No, the way you "watch the game" isn't limit of analysis. The guys at Synergy who record and classify every single play are the types of people who actually "watch the game."

 

Leebigeez: owned. Not sure why some people think not looking at stats and relying purely on what your own eyes see is somehow more accurate. I'm sure Leeb inherited the eyes of the hawk from BraveStarr and saw every single thing that happened in slow motion.

 

Well he gets 15-20 points a night, completely predicated on getting 13-18 shots a night. He does not pass well, he turns the ball over, he does not go to the line and he is a poor defender.

So I suppose it depends on the stat.

He is certainly not worth $85,000,000

 

Lock the thread already, it's getting annoying. All former Rudy supporters learned their lesson.

 

Yep, I'm owned. I'm so owned that I posted 16-23 ft shot as the worse shot in basketball. If that's owned, which I think is r****ded, I guess I'm owned on clutch fans. Thing is, I do record the games and go back watch and chart. I don't do it as much as I used to, but that's what I do. I don't need synergy to tell me what I know and see. I'm not restricted to just wtching the rockets. They're my favorite sports team, but I record a lot and watch a lot. I've been doing it for double digit years. So when someone just pulls a boxscore or wht someone else see, if I post positive about it, its because I've seen the same thing. The posters on the board can rep me on my accuracy. Again, I guess I'm owned.

 

I think having players who can hit that mid-range J is a good thing. It makes it more difficult for the defense to guard you, because you have threats all over the floor.

When people say that the long 2 is the worst shot in basketball, I think they're looking at it from the defense's perspective. JVG's defensive philosophy (he had it written up on a wall when he was coaching the Rockets) was on every defensive possession strive to allow only contested 2-point jumpshots and then get the defensive rebound. If your defense gives up a contested 2-point jumper and the guy hits it, you just tip your cap and say well done. Generally speaking, its a low percentage shot.

 

I agree somewhat. I was pointing out the greatest scorers in the history of the nba were midrange shooters. The triangle was a great offense because it created shots inside the arc. That's why they were always a high scoring team and shot a high %.the mid game is an extension of shot recognition. When you know you can beat guys off the dribble, the mid game is impossible. Remember kevin johnson?

 

What is up with "what" trying to turn this into Gay vs. LeBron/Rose all of a sudden, as if anyone thinks that's a debate? Why is Gay, a guy who has never made one All-Star team or even been to the playoffs, being held up as an example of great basketball? Seriously, if you're going to pick a player to unreasonably glorify, pick someone like Kobe so at least you won't look weird.

And yes, the mid-range shot is a bad thing to rely on as your go-to option. We went over this before. An accurate mid-range shot is not a bad skill to have, but it's still something you fall back on if the free throw, inside shot, or 3pt shot is denied to you.

And don't bring up the awesomeness of the triangle without naming the players who are most responsible for its success: Jordan, Shaq, and Kobe. Some of the greatest players of the last three decades. Shaq was an extreme inside player. MJ got to the FT line, a lot. Kobe made far more 3pt shots, and drew far more fouls, than Rudy does.

 

He made the playoffs in the same sense that TMac got to the 2nd round in 2009.