I am not sure what to think about Morris, I mean he showed in the San Antonio preseason game he can play. I still believe he is a tweener, a guy between 3 and 4, and now that Parsons is struggling big time, maybe Morris can sneak back in there. Or, he might be traded before he even sees the floor in meaningful minutes for the Rox. DD
You're bias is ridiculous. Parson has 2 games where his number weren't great outside the steals, and you talking about how he is struggling. However Bud can suck it up for 2/3 of a season and you talk about how he needs to start to be effective. Guess what. Parson is still the BEST wing defender on the team both in ISO situations and in help defense. If Morris is going to get any burn at the 3, it will be when Bud starts getting lackadaisical again.
I would much rather have Morris playing in the D-league than sitting on the end of the bench with T-Will and Flynn. I think the Rockets may think a lot of Morris, but there are only enough minutes for two players at small forward right now. It wouldn't bother me if the Rockets had Morris and Parsons trade places for a couple of weeks.
Whatever, this thread is about Morris not about me, or your perceived bias. As for Parsons, he has been struggling at shooting the ball for a long time, the rest of his game is just fine. I love the guy.....and hope he can keep up the energy. DD
Morris was just a bad pick. He's not a winner as he showed in college, and he's got attitude and maturity issues. Add to that the fact is doesn't have a true position in the NBA.
My concern with Morris is that Parsons beat him out for playing time and the starting 3 position. Granted, Morris probably is more of a 4 then a 3, like Parsons and Parsons' claim is only really getting the starting spot because he balances out the offensive specialists like Scola, Martin adn Budinger he has no bad defensive habits. But seriously, I worry short us trading someone that there is nothing we will do with him. It is too early to call him a bad pick, but what exactly was the plan Morey and the staff had with this one is anyone's guess at this point considering the log jam we have at the SG/SF position and don't even get me started on our PF/C situation.
Morris needs to prove he can defend an NBA 3 before he can get any burn time. He is gifted offensively but when he proves he can cover Bud and Parsons in practice, then he will get to play.
Come on, it is way too early to tell about that, the guy is a rookie in a lockout shortened year without a training camp. Let's give him some time to show his worth. DD
Morris is a "prospect" while Parsons is an NBA ready player right out of college. Thats the difference here on why Parsons was able to get playing time right out of the gate. Morris is one Morey's guys he personally coveted in the draft and was trying to move down in the draft to get him if it came to that. After March I expect the lineup to open up after trades or injuries to hold of the team. Whenever that happens Im expecting big things from this guy. I just hope he can do all the small things that guys like Parsons can do like play defense, hussle, rebound. He has to do those small things first and foremost to justify the playing time. But him not playing now has nothing to do with his future in the NBA. Like many others this season shouldn't really count as nothing more than a developmental year. Temper your expectations.
Do you remember where you read this? I remember reading that Morey was targeting Valanciunas and Biyombo in that draft. It was also reported that if Phoenix took Marcus then we would have taken Markieff, a PF. It didn’t sound like Morey was actually targeting Marcus as our new star wing player, he just took the BPA when he couldn’t trade up for Valanciunas or Biyombo. I can say, I really did buy into the stuff posters were saying about Morris becoming our new franchise player. I just really want the Rockets to have that go-to guy star. But looking back on it, Morey probably would have mentioned trying to move up in the draft for Morris like he did about Patterson if he really coveted him that much. I just really hope Morris can transition to the 3, where his max potential really lies. Derrick Williams also insisted he was an NBA 3, but it doesn’t look like it at all so far.
Why all the Morris hate? This dude's gonna be a stud. He was a baller in college and looked good in preseason. Dude's been in the NBA less than two months and hurt his ankle. Talk about knee jerk and jumping to conclusions.
I like that trade, except Granger. I would trade those players for a top 10 pick or a good power forward. Though, I still think Scola has some game left in him, while this board sort of overrates Morris and Montiejunas (it's typical for Clutch fans). If either one turns out to be a serviceable starter or bench player, then that's a success to me. If Marcus Morris doesn't turn into Paul Pierce or even Glenn Robinson, or Motiejunas doesn't turn into Pau Gasol or Andrea Bargnani. It'll be ok (expected). Often times, I do not think posters realize how good some of these players were in the amateur ranks and in their first few seasons in the league, in fact it's kind of disservice to compare them to players who are inferior in their production and talent. Pierce and Robinson were already becoming premier small forwards in their first seasons, while Gasol was a pretty good young forward/center in his earlier days. Bargnani has only improved greatly, because of his outstanding work ethic and not being expected to play center.
I don't think there is a lot of hate in this thread, but there was two really stupid posts. Obviously, those two did not realize Morris has been injured.
I remember Morey saying on 610 Houston Sports talk radio after the draft that they had him on their board much higher and they were actively looking to move down in that range. Of course, thats what he says after the fact, but we cant be 100% sure of that now. It was also reported by Jonathan Feigan as well that night, but there were no exact specifics were given on exactly where he ranked. We just know it was higher. Probably somewhere between 8 and 12. Ill have to look around for exact quotes. The have been pretty good about not spilling exactly were they had certain ranked on their board, but Feigan has been pretty good about getting general ideas of where they are. -What we do know for sure though is that all analysts covering the draft had Marcus ranked higher on their draft boards, so Im not sure if Morey agreed with Phoenix that Markieff is better, but that assumption is highly unlikely. Marcus has always been known as the more skilled player. Im gonna "assume" that Phoenix took Markieff based on their need for post defense and rebounding. Phoenix must believed that Marcus would more perimeter oriented and wouldn't contribute as much on the offensive and defensive glass. -Also as a side note, Im not sure why Clutchfan's are so persistent in wanting him to be a wing player. I for one like the Marcus Morris I saw at Kansas who was one of the best low post offensive players in the NCAA last year. That is a huge need for the Rockets and something every team salivates for. The SF position in the NBA is best suited for someone that can facilitate, shoot the three, and lock up the perimeter on defense. Thats not the kind of player I imagine when I see Morris. I see a low & high post scoring machine.
I remember this, too. I think you are right about Morey trying to trade down a few spots to get him. And I'm believe redhotrox is also correct, that our primary target was Valanciunas. Yeah, but that doesn't describe Bud or Parsons, either. There is a chance Morris will fit that definition more completely than our current SFs.
