Did I even once mention Amare's on court ability? Stop being stat geeks! That isn't going to get you Dwight Howard. He isn't going to the team with the highest PER/player. He is going to a team where he knows he has people to compete. Even when McGrady was breaking down, players would still have told their agent that playing with McGrady was on the table. Is anyone telling their agent that playing with Scola is on the table? Yeah, Elton Brand and no one else lol. My argument for Amare is very simple and you never answered it despite your phenomenal research so I'm glad I at least gave you a Saturday afternoon activity. Let me repeat: 1. Dragic is leaving, we can't afford him anyway. We is deserving of a starting position. (See: Lowry vs Brooks) 2. Scola is not as attractive as a running-mate for any FA who isn't from Argentina and probably even Ginobili would rather player with Amare as well if they are chasing a championship. 3. NYK pick will be in the 10-18 range. I'm not exactly heartbroken to lose that pick. You never answered ANY of that but you spew stats... I don't care about stats, we will never be a contender until we are relevant because we aren't getting a top 3 pick anytime soon to get a Durant. Best way to get to be a contender is to become relevant and attract talent that we can afford to pay. Amare helps us do that better than Scola/Dragic/15th pick. It's a really simple argument. It's about the business of running a team, vs the business of coaching a team. Anyone care to respond to that, then do so, but please don't shower me with stats when nothing I wrote had to do with on-court production. Cheers.
In this case, how you judge the trade without considering the numbers they put up? Name recognition will only get you so far before people (espn) start questioning playing abilities. Dragic will be gone, but I guess you forgot Sergio Llull's coming over on his rookie contract. Not a big loss. Scola isn't a big name, but at least his contract is flexible enough to move him. Amare's contract is not until it is in the final year which in 3 years.
We get Amare we will be a playoff team no doubt about it. The game plan changes for opposing team. Lowry would have 2 guys to throw lobs to... it's the nba and Amare still can jump. Knicks don't have Nash, Lowry at point and Rockets don't have another guy playing the same way he does like Melo is doing... Amare would be free again to play his game.
Too bad the Rockets can't take a shot at Amare and still Amnesty him if his knees cave in, that would make getting him a no brainer as you could always get rid of his contract..... DD
I don't care even if you can jump over 5 persons to put the ball into the hole with both hands. In my honest opinion, you are no where close to being a good player if you don't make an effort to play defense. Period.
You're implying that Amar'e would even play defense. I thought he just stands there and occasionally goes for a block.
How is this overpaying? we got a huge upgrade talent and league percieved talent wise at the 4 and only give up a 1st rounder and a backup point guard. - amare was averaging like 26 points last season and he is at least a better shotblocker than scola - who cares is he is overpaid, thats why we have caproom... and if we want to try and net a big time susperstar, amare would be worth a lot more and look better in a trade than dragic scola and a first
How can after 9 years playing at a very hight level, people summarize 17 games after a big offseason of, "the player is on the decline because of his knee". Let me guess, you were the ones saying "Kmart can´t score with the changed rules" after the first 5 games? Someone said it best, some of you would get absolutely raped by Daryl Morey, you would have traded a first round pick for Bud when he was balling last year, or traded Nash for AB. Hey look, Danny granger is only averaging 17 points in 37% FG in a monster stretch, he is declining fast, I would not trade Bud for him........... ??? on Amares health - Decent concern ability to sign FAs with so much money on Amare - Decent concern Amare is a scrub because he is averaging x amount of points rebs, etc - Pathetic concern I would make this trade because I always liked Amare, and I truly believe in his ability to be THE man, as he proved last year before Melo came in.
Why didn't they allow you to amnesty players that you trade for? Were they that afraid of people consolidating small contracts for big ones and then amnestying the player? That rule really screws us over.
HAS ANYTHING SHERIDAN SUGGESTED EVER COMES THROUGH? Im done with this guy. I followed his articles for months and he was dead wrong on every bit of the lockout and whatever BS he talked about after the season began.
Bro please stop posting nonsense. Or at least don't quote me and respond with nonsense. If Luis Scola had a flexible contract then David Stern would not have vetoed that trade. Scola gets a raise every year for 3 straight years. How is that flexible? Just stop. Amare is viewed as a better running-mate than Luis Scola by all star NBa players. We will have the $$ to sign an All Star FA and having Amare helps our chances. No one wants to come play with Scola, I'm sorry stat geek, I love him just like you do but I don't cheer for the Rockets to make a playoff cameo every few years. I want us to win a championship and the defend it.
Scola's contract is MORE flexible than Amare's. Amare's overrated and he's only name recognition at this point. I want to move Scola as well, but not for guy who not playing up to his max contract. What's incorrect about that?
Fine. Amare's contract is more flexible than Joe Johnson's. That means nothing if both are inflexible. That was my point. You can be 100% correct and still be making a nonsense point. The White House is bigger than my foot. Technically correct, but doesn't say if my foot is small or if the white house is big. My point is both have horrible contracts and are old, but Amare puts us on a short list of teams that a true all star would be interested in playing with. I'm done with responding to you, please carry on with the thread: Amare isn't washed up, he will play better with a good PG like the above poster referenced. Lowry/Lee/All Star wing/Amare/Dalembert + $20 mil in cap space sounds good to me.
Scola and Dragic yes. He is not worth a 1st round pick anymore thrown in. He is a huge risk for injuries and his contract is horrible.
Realistically, if we take on Amare's contract, the Knicks should not only let us keep their pick, but also take off the top 5 protection.
