Are the Rockets not good at developing young talent?

OP, that was the worst example to use, though your case is a valid one. Historically speaking (especially over the last 40 years), the Rockets draft very poorly and have made some questionable draft day trades. In recent history, last the 18 years or so, you could say it is a matter of having lower picks, because of team's regular season and postseason success.

In the concern of our present GM, Morey has been superior to most of his predecessors, when it comes to drafting the right players or bringing in young players he thinks can succeed as overachiever (since most of his deals are along the lines of low risk for high reward). Our scouting is definitely in high regard across the league, while Morey is the type of GM who would hit home runs, if given consecutive top 10. His team would at least have the talent on the floor to win.

 

Dragic is a 4th year player who has been getting backup minutes since his second year so it's not really fair to throw him in that group. TWill, Thabeeet and Flynn all weren't terrible during their rookie seasons but they haven't received consistent minutes sense. Trading Scola who no longer fits in with this team age wise and not signing Dalmebert would have given us the opportunity to let more of these guys get consistent minutes in a short season to see what they are capable of.

 

Dragic is a 4th year player (class of 2008), one friggin draft class head of the 2009 busts.

The 2009 busts have not earned any minutes. They have not shown that they can play without getting the team humiliated on the court.

 

This thread is dumb...

 

What summer? Have you been living in a cave during the NBA lockout? Flynn was locked out, so was T-will.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/bask...06/A-fans-guide-to-the-NBA-lockout/51098590/1



T-Will was only on the Rockets for 2 months after the All-star Break. In the last month of the season, he was rehabbing from his abdominal surgery. Rockets really had him healthy for 6 weeks, last season. They had him for another 6 weeks this season, due to the late start from the NBA lockout.

http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets...-+NBA+Basketball%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Rockets had Thabeet for about 2 months, last season, and 6 weeks this season.

 

This.

 

I know how to count and I am fully aware that Dragic is only one year after the others. However, the point was that this is his third year of receiving consistent minutes which had given him a chance to prove himself.

That's not true. TWill has looked good in some of the games he has played and Flynn proved his rookie year that he can be a contributor given decent minutes. The rockets acquired these players and then didn't make room on the roster for them. They might all be terrible but we won't know that for sure sense the rockets have never given them an opportunity to play minutes to prove that.

 

No for being stupid

In player development, 30% is on the team but 70% is on the player. In the case of the Rockets, they have one of the best big men as head coach, they have connections with Hakeem AND they have the dude who taught Hakeem (CD). So there are all these opportunities for big men like Thabeet or Hill, the question is are they taking advantage of it?

My guess is no.

 

Players don't receive minutes, they earn it. You are not handed anything in the NBA.

 

stop looking at the spreadsheet and watch some real games.

Anyone who has seen those players know they suck.

I'm tired of all the suck worship here.

When the Rockets won the championships, did people like you wonder why Eric Riley didn't get enough play time?

When the Bulls won a championship, did you wonder why Craig Hodges didn't get more playing time ?

If you want to watch the suck team play hoops, go buy a videogame and replace all the starters with suck team and you can do that for the entire league!

 

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Originally Posted by Carl Herrera
Dragic is a 4th year player (class of 2008), one friggin draft class head of the 2009 busts.

 

you can make statements like that as if they are fact but that isn't always the case. Playing time can be based on past performance and potential. Lots of young players receive playing time despite not playing great.

 

Responding while driving in my car so couldn't proofread but thank you for pointing that out.

I think he understood what I meant and on a Rockets forum I refuse to spellcheck/grammar check. If you read most of my posts there are tons of mistakes in them and it likely won't be changing anytime soon.

 

We're not trying to be the Wizards or the Bobcats. We're actually trying to win and get to the playoffs. Forgive the Rockets for actually giving a damn.

 

When you play t-will on a video game, the team does way better.

 

I'd much rather be in the Wizards situation with Wall/McGee and another top 5 pick coming up in a very good draft. The Bobcats are just a terribly managed team and most of that is because of Jordan. Getting to the playoffs this year does this franchise zero good and it will cost us a lottery pick.

 

If these guys could play, they would still be with their original teams.

 

That's looking at it in a vacuum. Washington is terrible and shows little hope of pulling it together. They're basically the Clippers of the late 90's/early 00's. They don't have the proper coaching and management to take advantage of their talent.

Morey has shown the ability to draft developable pieces and build a very good surrounding cast. He hasn't shown the ability to acquire a foundation player, but I'd rather watch the product on the floor now than the Wizards.

 

-Newsflash- The Rockets did trade Scola this December, and are actively keeping the door open to trading him a second time if it brings back value. Patterson is not ready yet to take over the starting job. He still looks like he needs another season off the bench before we know whether he is a true starter or not in this league.

-Dalembert actually HELPS the young guys develop(except Thabeet whose minutes he is taking) by making the team much stronger defensively to clean up their mistakes. Jordan Hill was still considered the started until he lost his job to Dalembert by playing terribly for about a four game streak.

 

I was strictly talking current roster not management etc. I'd rather have the Wizards roster on the Rockets with Morey running the show. I also think what we are currently doing is more Les than Morey because Morey has said himself that he thinks you have to be bad before you can be good.