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SheridanHoops suggests Amare To Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da_Spark, Jan 27, 2012.

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Would you trade Scola, Dragic and NYK's 1st rounder for Amar'e Stoudemire?

  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

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    First round pick! that's the problem. In one of the deepest draft
     
  2. LCAhmed

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    Im getting kind of tired of being the butt end of these trades lately... this is kind of depressing.
     
  3. Z-Ro&Trae

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    rockets would have a solid play-off roster if this trade was made.
     
  4. LabMouse

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    Amare To Houston?

    No. He is older, and expensive, could be injured any time. Plus, we do not have Nash as PG, he would be just a bit of better than Scola, but it will be a huge risk to be taken. Current team is having a good chemistry, no trades are needed for older player because we will not win it all right now. Any trade or free agent signing for young player, such as James Harden (from OKC), would be great for this team.
     
  5. tehG l i d e

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    Do this asap please Murray.
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    Dragic is more of a combo guard than a true PG. Also for Morey it is easier to find another PG than a perennial all-star player in Amare.

    As for the pick. I just see it as getting Amare for the pick. It depends on how bad the Knicks are by the deadline I guess lol. If it falls into the top 10 range then it'd be tough to give away.

    Still though Amare would be the best player on the team IMO. We'd be teaming him up with a good defensive center. Backing him up with Patterson. Pairing him up with Martin and also keeping that guy Lowry.
     
  7. FLASH21

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    Fixed
     
  8. acsorelle4

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    Thank you for exposing the remaining people who would take the kneeless, d-less wonder.
     
  9. Rip Van Rocket

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    I wouldn't do it. Amare is getting paid roughly 20 million for the next four years, he doesn't play defense any better than Scola, he doesn't rebound any better than Scola, and he's had injury problems in the past. I also like Dragic and our first round draft pick. I wouldn't be surprised if Morey was interested in this deal, as he is desperate to acquire someone that some people believe is a "superstar."
     
  10. Pete the Cheat

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    is Amare really the problem in NY? swapping Melo for Deron seems like an easy solution to both teams problems to me...

    Melo gets to move to Brooklyn next year and the Nets don't lose Deron for nothing.

    D'Antoni gets a PG to make it looks like he is a competent coach...

    just makes too much sense

    but shhhhhh don't tell the Knicks...
     
  11. Clutch

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    Amar'e Stoudemire's salary is $23.4M ... in 2014-15.

    Of course it's not that much more obscene than Pau Gasol's $19.2 in 2013-14... but I'm not sure a strictly offensive-minded post player is what the Rockets need. Gasol is a heady player who can make the right pass and play some decent defense... Stoudemire's strength was his sick athleticism and scoring ability.

    I wanted him in the past here... not sure I would now. I prefer to rebuild or go cream of the crop in free agency.
     
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  12. Carl Herrera

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    I think the biggest concern over the suggested trade, or any Amare trade, really, is his salary. Remember, he has 4 more years, over $80 million left on a deal that cannot be insured due to his injury history. Also, his knees are kind of a time-bomb since the scar tissues crearted by microfracture surgery that act as a replacement for cartlage in his knee are nearing expieration date.

    http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp

    More immediately, the Rockets, with current obligations, can have roughly the cap room for a max contract (if things break their way) going into next offseason-- even if they pick up Dalembert's option. Hell, if they play it conservative and get rid of either Scola or Martin for expirings (or, if need be, amnesty one of them), they might even have room for 2 max guys. The difference between Scola's salary and Amare's, however, would pretty much eliminate any chance of having close to max cap room.


    Emotionally, I kind of like Amare and like the idea to have an ELITE pick'n'roll finisher to work with Lowry. However, when you look at the $ figures and the salary cap, it really is too much to take on.
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    Neither of them are the problem. People don't understand that though. It was always a bad fit and actually ever since Melo came there Amare's game has suffered it seems. They are really similar type of players
     
  14. Deckard

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    Good lord, people, has anyone looked at Stoudemire's contract?? There's only two years difference in their ages, as well. Doing the deal would be nuts, IMO. I'll pass. Ask yourself, is Stoudemire is worth $10 million more per season? Of course he isn't. I read better trade speculation here in the GARM every damn day.
     
  15. Asian Sensation

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    Funny how some of you guys mention you don't want Amare because of his age when Scola is almost 3 years older.

    If this were a deal on the table you absolutely have to make this deal. Amare is still a star in this league and he's being held back in NY because that team is a mess. Lowry is exactly what Amare needs and Amare is exactly what we need at the 4 position. I'm really intrigued by an Amare/Dalembert 4/5 combo.
     
  16. Pete the Cheat

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    are you suggesting trading Martin, Scola and the '09 busts for Garnett and Ray Allen? you evil genius....
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    This deal I would do but I doubt NY would.

    Amare really excels with a good PG who can run the pick and roll.

    We are hardly givig up much. Scola is on the decline and I think Dragic will always be a bench guy.

    That pick is top 5 protected.

    We'd be more attractive for free agents to come also.
     
  18. clutch citizen

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    This would be a fair trade. You get back a star and a good backup PG to replace Dragic. All you give up is Scola really.

    I'm not too concerned about draft picks since Morey seems to go for value anyways. Unless it's in the top 5, Morey's pick seems to always look like a reach at first. This is Morey's strongest mutant power in my opinion.

    It's a fair trade for both teams. NY gets pieces that fit better. There is still no defense down low to help Chandler, but at least there would be better spacing on offense.

    Houston gets a star. Some of you will argue he plays no defense. Neither does Scola. I get the same feeling with both players when they have the ball in the post. Scola has a sweeter jumpshot, but Amare can get to the rack better.
     
  19. Amel

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    bang, thats what I'm talking about..

    enough with being just a solid team
     
  20. pge71188

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    Two years ago I would vote yes on this deal. Today I'm not sure I would but would not be mad if it went down.
     

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