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Budinger giving up ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets Jones, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. DaDakota

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    I always did, but I knew that you were not accounting for the difference in playing time.

    DD
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    He said that in hist first post. He said 80 percent more rebounds while playing 3 more minutes.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    We are arguing semantics now, I had up to date information, others did not.

    DD
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Go reread my post. I said 80% more rebounds in 15% more time (using other stats' sites). Using CF, then it's 90.3% more rebounds in 20% more time.

    Come on DD, you are better than that (see, I can do that too).
     
  5. durvasa

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    Depending on the matchups, yes, but it will be hard to give him a lot of minutes. If Bud needs 20 minutes a game to get back into a rhythm, that'll be tough to come by on this team. Its just hard to fit in Budinger into the rotation, when McHale's got 3 other players (Martin, Lee, and Parsons) who have been playing really well. Plus, Dragic has only been effective playing with Lowry, which exacerbates the minutes crunch at that wing spot.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Lets use the latest numbers

    3.1 + x(3.1)=5.9
    3.1x=2.8
    x=2.8/3.1
    x=.903

    So Parsons has 90 percent more rebounds while playing 4.6 more minutes.
     
  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    bobrek beat me to it. You're fighting an unwinnable battle. Its like like comparing Dominique Wilkens to Michael Jordan. Their offensive numbers were similar in the 80s but they aren't in the same leagues.
     
  8. durvasa

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    Basketball-reference.com is updated every night. Parsons has played 404 minutes this year in 17 games.

    Clutchfans stats show he's only played 16 games.

    The reason for the difference is that Parsons played 6 seconds in one game, and Clutch's stats aren't taking that into account. Technically, basketball-reference.com is correct.

    None of this would matter if people just looked at rebound rate or rebounds/minute instead.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Gotcha, good find, Clutch should update that.

    DD
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    Actually, this is incorrect. You did not have more up to date info than others.


    The Clutcfans link lists Parsons as having played 16 games, other sites lists him as having played in 17 games. So, the Clutchfans link cannot be more "up to date" unless the update involves the retroactive deletion of a game.

    I believe the Clutchfans link is, actually, in error. Specifically, Parsons played 6 seconds in the game vs. the Hawks. I don't believe that the CF link counted that game, thus it listed Parson as having averaged 25.3 mpg (404 minutes/16 games = 25.3 mpg, 404 minutes/17 games = 23.8 mpg) and 5.9 rebounds per game (95 reb/16 games = 5.9 rpg, 95 reb/17 games =5.6 rpg).

    http://www.clutchfans.net/stats.cfm

    In the end, it should not make a difference if you used the 16-game figure for both, but using the 16-game figure (25.3 mpg) for minutes but the 17 game figure (5.6 mpg) for rebounds would be in error.



    http://www.nba.com/games/20111231/ATLHOU/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Sorry all you are talking about is rebound rate......look at EFG%.....they are comparible.

    DD
     
  12. rockbox

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    But scoring is Bud's best(only) trait and Parson's biggest weakness. It does bode well for Bud that their offensive output is almost identical.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Again, I am NOT arguing that Bud should start, Parsons has clearly won that role, I am arguing that Bud should be playing backup SF though.

    DD
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Don't worry DD, like your opinion of T-Will and his struggle to get minutes:

    "He'll have to earn them in practice".

    Budinger has to prove to McHale and the rest of the coaches that he can do what they ask everyone else who's on the court to do, play defense.
     
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    The interesting thing to me is that hustle and D are things you don't have to work super hard in trying to get better. You can show hustle right off the bat and D can be learned much easier than offense in my opinion. He just has to want it at the end of the day.
     
  16. BigBenito

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    Holy heck the last couple pages were painful. Reread your posts, DD, and go outside and take a breather.
     
  17. MrButtocks

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    After Bud's rookie year, DD said he wouldn't even trade him for the #2 pick because he was proven and that he had Ray Allen potential. Now he's willing to deal him because he doesn't fit. Isn't that capitulation enough?
     
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    ORR he consistently puts out Kevin Martin type scoring, then he is allowed to slack on D

    Too bad he can't play either at the moment.
     
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    The fact that he compared Bud to Ray Allen in and of itself is a travesty.
     
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