Rick Perry Committed Political Suicide and I'm Glad

pgabriel · Jan 26, 2012

Another Texas embrrassing govenor. Dude could have remained under the radar and remained govenor forever. He really thought he could step up to the big leagues. Now his political career is over. I hope texans finally wake up to what's going on in their state government.

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AUSTIN — In the wake of his fumbling presidential run, Gov. Rick Perry’s job approval level has sunk below President Barack Obama’s among Texans and more than half think the Republican shouldn’t run for re-election, according to a new poll by a consortium of newspapers including the Houston Chronicle and the San Antonio Express-News.

“Rick Perry didn’t just not do well in his presidential campaign, but he didn’t do himself any favors at home,” said Micheline Blum, director of the poll conducted Jan. 21-24 by Blum & Weprin Associates Inc.

Among Texas adults surveyed, 40 percent approved and an equal percentage disapproved of Perry’s job performance.

Obama had both a higher job-approval level at 43 percent and higher disapproval at 47 percent in this red state.

Looking only at registered voters, Perry’s 42 job approval rating was 1 percentage point higher than Obama’s, and his disapproval was 43 percent compared with 50 percent for the president.

The figures represent Perry’s lowest-ever job-approval level, Blum said Wednesday.

The telephone poll of a random sample of 806 Texas adults included 669 registered voters. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for the 806 adults, and plus or minus 3.8 percentage points for the registered voters.

Among the registered voters, 56 percent said Perry shouldn’t run for re-election in 2014. Forty-one percent of registered voters had a less favorable view of Perry due to his presidential run.

Effect on state’s image

A combined 48 percent of registered voters said Perry’s presidential run had tarnished Texas’ image either a little bit (25 percent) or a lot (23 percent).

“I think once again, Jay Leno and everybody, it gave them another opportunity to say, ‘Oh, the doofus from Texas,’ like they did with George Bush,” said Mary Metzger, 69, a Republican and retired school administrator in Houston.

The poll reflected a 10 percentage point drop in Perry’s job-approval level among Texas adults since January 2011.
Significantly, his approval has fallen from 73 percent to 60 percent among Republicans, Blum said, and from 46 percent to 29 percent among independents.

Blum and Mark Jones, Rice University professor of political science, noted that could make the GOP establishment and potential challengers take notice.

The loss of support among a swing group of voters “is the difference between a safe, relatively easy re-election bid and a hard-fought contest and the potential of losing against a strong Democratic competitive. It’s those sorts of numbers that worry a lot of people in the Republican establishment,” Jones said.

Perry spokesman Ray Sullivan, noting that Perry has defied polls before, said the governor may well run for re-election in 2014 and also try again for the White House in 2016, “especially if President Obama somehow wins a second term.”
Perry showcased Texas’ jobs record and fiscal responsibility on the presidential campaign trail, putting it in a good light, Sullivan said.

“Governor Perry leads based on his conservative philosophy and what is best for Texas jobs and quality of life, not poll numbers,” Sullivan said.

The poll also looked at leading GOP presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, neither of whom seemed to spark great enthusiasm, Blum noted.

Among all adults surveyed, 34 percent had a favorable opinion of Gingrich, while 37 percent had an unfavorable opinion of him. For Romney, 28 percent had a favorable opinion and 39 percent an unfavorable opinion. More than a quarter were unsure.

Among Republicans, 59.4 percent had a favorable opinion of Gingrich but not even half — 45.9 percent — had a favorable opinion of Romney.

Perry’s high-water mark for job approval was in March 2002, according to Blum’s figures, when 65 percent of registered voters approved and 14 percent disapproved of his job performance. His previous lowest job approval was 44 percent among registered voters in September 2010.

Across-the-board hit

Blum noted that Perry’s approval rating was hurt “among pretty much every group.”

Matthew Caldwell, 29, who works in construction, said he’s not sure whether Perry should run again but that he likely wouldn’t vote for him. He described himself as a GOP-leaning independent and tea party member.

“I would like to see somebody else. It’s kind of like driving a new vehicle. You drive it for a while, and that ‘new’ wears off,” said Caldwell of Alvin. “Governor Perry has had a great run here, a long run … it’s somebody else’s opportunity to step up and make some changes.”
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MoonDogg · Jan 26, 2012

ima_drummer2k · Jan 26, 2012

I'm a Republican (sort of) and I've known the guy was a complete BOOB since 2000.

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CometsWin · Jan 26, 2012

It says a lot more about how idiotic Texas voters are than it says about Rick Perry. The guy has always been a moron and too many Texans are just figuring that out.

SamFisher · Jan 26, 2012

There's a good piece from the NYT last week by a Texas liberal about their reaction to the whole perry affair & what they told their non-texan friends - that he was an idiot but would cruise to the nomination, glee when he messed up, then a strange sense of shame after he flamed out that they got defeated/bullied by this buffoon for a decade.

edit: here it is

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/overmisunderestimating-rick-perry/?scp=1&sq=Perry%20Shame&st=cse

Reading the old perry thread here is very interesting, btw. Some people got it exactly right:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=5688560#post5688560

jo mama said: ↑

if perry tries to go national he will have to debate and as soon as he does everyone will see what a dumbass he really is.
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A_3PO said: ↑

This is the bottom line.

I'm not sure Rick Perry has what it takes to snag the GOP nomination, much less be elected president. You can't take for granted how Republicans around the country will react to him once he goes on the stump. Right now, the concept of Perry's candidacy appears to be strong. But when he starts trolling for votes, count me skeptical. It's July. Let's see what people say about him by December.

Perry's handlers have to realize he may not translate well nationally and I wouldn't be surprised if they called it off. The only reason he's governor of Texas is because he fell into the job and entrenched himself.
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geeimsobored said: ↑

Disagree on the campaign trail part. Perry was never good at that stuff. His actual campaign skills are laughable. He didnt even run a campaign in 2010. His campaign office consisted of two rooms in Dallas. His field program was nothing. He won purely on outsourcing to consultants and strategy firms. He made only a handful of public appearances and made no interviews. He didnt do much in 2006 for that matter. Everything was delegated to third party firms for ads.

He's no campaigner. Just because he goes to tea party rallies and cries about the federal government doesn't make him someone who will like the grind of an election.

Also I called him Fred Thompson for the fact that you have an election pool that isn't too exciting and all people then all of a sudden start gravitating to some guy that hasn't even run yet. Perry unlike every other Republican hasn't actually had any scrutiny on him since he hasn't actually declared yet. He's just some mythical savior figure at this point (like Thompson) We'll see what he'll do when he runs.

But dont ever call him a good campaigner. He's awful at it. And he'll get exposed in the primary.
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& others were more like the woman in the NYT op-ed or Nate Silver, who was really good in 2008 but has made some really bad calls in the repub race this year.

weslinder · Jan 26, 2012

My friend Dave Nalle, who's the head of the Republican Liberty Caucus said this on twitter when Perry had his horrible debate bomb.

@texliberty said:

Tonight was a reminder that Rick Perry is the real deal. He's the shallow, dimwitted cowboy Bush was wrongly accused of being.
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Cohete Rojo · Jan 26, 2012

PUNJABI!

mc mark · Jan 26, 2012

I miss Molly Ivins

REEKO_HTOWN · Jan 26, 2012

Really sad he didn't get a chance to run against the Prez.

Pete the Cheat · Jan 26, 2012

SamFisher said: ↑

There's a good piece from the NYT last week by a Texas liberal about their reaction to the whole perry affair & what they told their non-texan friends - that he was an idiot but would cruise to the nomination, glee when he messed up, then a strange sense of shame after he flamed out that they got defeated/bullied by this buffoon for a decade.

edit: here it is

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/overmisunderestimating-rick-perry/?scp=1&sq=Perry%20Shame&st=cse

Reading the old perry thread here is very interesting, btw. Some people got it exactly right:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=5688560#post5688560
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I had to go back and rep A_3PO for that one, scary how well he nailed it.

pgabriel · Jan 26, 2012

on jomama's comment

he got away with not debating bill white. he didn't have to do it here. he had it made

glynch · Jan 26, 2012

Don't count Texas out. Perry might win next time bigger than ever. We don't like no pointed headed intellectuals. Besides he is a good family man.

bnb · Jan 26, 2012

I don't know that there's much juice to this article.

He's been beaten up nationally so it makes sense he's down a bit locally. But at 40% approval (and 40% disapproval) he's only down 4 points from his previous low...and hardly disastrous. Especially when the margin of error is 3.5%

The comparisons to Obama are silly since they're doing different jobs. Unless president Obama plans to mosey on over to Texas in 2016 to clean up the mess.

and besides... 3% behind with a 3.5% margin of error doesn't mean much. Journalists should study up a bit on statistics if they're going to throw them about.

So maybe he's done in Texas? maybe no? Too early to tell. Too many other factors at play. Let's just be glad he was voted off the island on the National stage.

pgabriel · Jan 26, 2012

bnb said: ↑

I don't know that there's much juice to this article.

He's been beaten up nationally so it makes sense he's down a bit locally. But at 40% approval (and 40% disapproval) he's only down 4 points from his previous low...and hardly disastrous. Especially when the margin of error is 3.5%

The comparisons to Obama are silly since they're doing different jobs. Unless president Obama plans to mosey on over to Texas in 2016 to clean up the mess.

and besides... 1% behind with a 3.5% margin of error doesn't mean much. Journalists should study up a bit on statistics if they're going to throw them about.

So maybe he's done in Texas? maybe no? Too early to tell. Too many other factors at play. Let's just be glad he was voted off the island on the National stage.
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obama has a higher approval rating in TX

bnb · Jan 26, 2012

per the article:

Obama's approval was 43% among adults and 41% among registered voters.
Perry had 40% among adults and 42% among registered voters.

Margin of error was 3.5% for adults and 3.8% for registered voters.

So...statistically....Obama doesn't have a higher approval rate. Both spreads are within the margin of error. A lead, within the margin of error, is not really a lead.

Deckard · Jan 26, 2012

I wouldn't get cocky about the "future demise" of Rick Perry as Governor. I haven't liked him since he ran for Agriculture Commissioner, so I've been watching him a while. He's ruthless and he has rich extremists bankrolling him. The Democrats would need to find an honest to god good candidate, not the well intentioned guys with the charisma of a turnip that we've been seeing.

pgabriel · Jan 26, 2012

bnb said: ↑

per the article:

Obama's approval was 43% among adults and 40% among registered voters.
Perry had 40% among adults and 41% among registered voters.

Margin of error was 3.5% for adults and 3.8% for registered voters.

So...statistically....Obama doesn't have a higher approval rate. Both spreads are within the margin of error. A lead, within the margin of error, is not really a lead.
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if you want to be obtuse about the article go ahead. i'm not having a dumbass argument.

if you don't understand the significance of the anti christ being tied with perry in texas in job approval rating i guess you haven't been watching politics the last eight years.

and i know you are smarter than this

TheRealist137 · Jan 26, 2012

Agreed, Texas is dumb enough to reelect Perry multiple times, they are dumb enough to vote for him again.

CrazyDave · Jan 26, 2012

He won't be able to duck the debates next time, if there is a next time.

Bandwagoner · Jan 26, 2012

pgabriel said: ↑

obama has a higher approval rating in TX
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pgabriel said: ↑

being tied with perry in texas in job approval rating
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Say something wrong, have it explained to you politely why it is wrong, get angry.

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