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The 1%: Obama's charity

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. cml750

    cml750 Member

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    The whole Democratic mantra is to take "other peoples money" to use for charitable purposes. Obama's charitable contributions are shameful!!!!!
     
  2. krosfyah

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    No it isn't. The Mantra is to support a 1st world country where the balance of power never swings too far into one camp ...hence The Constitution.

    The GOP has always been perfectly comfortable centralizing power. Pretty much started with slavery and kept going from there.
     
  3. basso

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    Uh, which of these is not like the others:

    Lincoln
    Republican
    Emancipation
    Slavery
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Uh, no, not if you actually try to understand the data set they don't.....sorry but Mitt Romney tithing to fund a cash rich organization like the LDS that funds kooky initiatives like secretly baptizing dead holocaust victims and sending kids out on bikes to micronesia doesn't really make me care too much...nor does Rick Santorum bringing bagels to his local anti-abortion rally.

    Nice rationalization though.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    Sam, would you say that churches fund charitable efforts? yes or no?
     
  6. SamFisher

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    no I wouldn't, I'd strip them of tax exempt status.
     
  7. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I don't know why I find public discussion about personal charity so disturbing.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    If you make more than them, then why on earth are you wasting your time in here.

    And if you don't, aren't you annoyed that people pay a lower tax rate the more they make?
     
  9. Nook

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    The story here is that Mitt has a 14% tax rate, there is no excuse. I don't want to hear how he donates to charity. I want an explanation from Washington why he pays 14% when I pay 30%... I do very well by most standards, and do not mind paying more than a guy making $55,000 with 3 kids and a mortgage.. But Mitt sure as hell should be paying 30% or higher.
     
  10. tallanvor

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    Romney paid 3.2 million in taxes last year. that pays for food stamps for 24,000 people for a month. how much did you pay? Your mistake is thinking how much someone should have to pay should be dependent on their income.
     
  11. Nook

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    Mitt paid 14%.. End of discussion... I don't care if he paid 3.2 million in taxes, it is 4-5 million less than he should have. The tax rate should not go down the more money you make, it should do the opposite or remain steady.
     
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    If how much you had to pay was not dependent on the type of income you earned, Romney would be paying about 30%, you do know that right?
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    I would too if it were Constitutional



    Bump.
     
  14. kyle_R

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    One of the few things I strongly disagree with, and there isn't a whole lot, is the Left's position on rich people's taxes. The problem isn't richy rick down the street not paying "his fair share" he already pays a ton more than i do. The issue is government spending. The only reason we want other people to pay more is because the government overextends itself. That's a government problem, not a rich person's.
     
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    Isn't that 14% mostly on money that has already been taxed?
     
  16. cml750

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    BINGO!!!! Yes, it was capital gains. Most of the money he made was from investments. The money he used to make the original investments was taxed at the highest tax rate of the time he made them.
     
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    It's not really double taxation if you've been sitting on the same damn principal for some 10 or 20 odd years, and are just feeding off intrest payments, and dividends, which Romney and the top 1% do a disportionate amount of.

    The only difference between that and filing a W-2 in terms of income is that well, you're not really doing anything productive for society, and given the financial products out there, you might actually be harming people. your job is to essantially collect dividend payments off somebody else's work. I wish the middle class were given that kind of oppurtunity, but sadly, to get this kind of cash flow where your sole income is investment proceedings requires you to be part of the glided elite that can forgo the W-2 with staggering amounts of invested principal, which is plainly not fair.
     
  18. cml750

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    Say what??????? Do you have a clue at all? Where were you taught that? I certainly hope you didn't learn that at school. The Constitution gives us personal liberties and limits government. Was the balance of power you are talking about rich vs. poor???? That isn't anywhere in the Constitution. You might want to read the Constitution to understand it better. This whole class warfare thing is getting out of hand. Regardless of what you may have been taught nowhere in the Constitution does it say you are "ENTITLED" to another persons possessions or money. You are "ENTITLED" with the right to go earn your own money.

    The platform of the GOP is limited government. They believe the government shouldn't stand in the way of anyone wanting to "EARN" a living. The Democrat platform is much more socialistic. Take from the "EARNERS" and give to the "NON-EARNERS" as a way to buy there votes. The more people living off of the government trough means more people voting for the ones promising to fill the trough.
     
  19. cml750

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    Why are you so jealous of successful people? I really do not care for Romney at all, but I have no jealousy for anything he has. I suspect he earned it legally or he would be in jail. I am happy knowing everything I have I "EARNED". I do not want anything anyone else has.
     
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    Newt with $20k in alimony. Lulz.
     

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