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2012 SOTU

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. nef2005

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    I was not aware of that. Combined with the timing of your post, it threw me off.

    That said, hopefully you found at least one thing to agree with.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    He sure shoe-horned that "hey I killed Osama reference" in there.

    But good for him, that's a cow he has more than enough right to milk.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Don''t worry texxx, we've got yer back!

    I want you to read this passage. Really comprehend it.

     
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    There's your opening campaign speech. Going for legacy. Staying optimistic yet realistically talking about the challenges. Good stuff.
     
  6. dandorotik

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    And in other news:

    The sun sets in the west.

    The St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series.

    And Republicans aren't impressed with a speech from a Democrat President.

    O....R.....L.....Y?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
     
  7. yo

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    Anyone see Roland Martin on CNN rock the Rockets pin? Awesome.
     
  8. mc mark

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    On the contrary, I saw numerous occasions where republicans were nodding their heads and even a few bursts of applause. Once again Mr. Obama spoke to both sides. Only this time it was different. For the first time you saw the president say "keep up, cause you ain't seen nothing yet". ;)
     
  9. geeimsobored

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    He had a Texans pin on a few weeks ago too. I guess he's a houston guy.
     
  10. Classic

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    I missed the speech, are these the cliff-notes? Any pics of the finger pointing?
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Nothing special in his speech. Politically - it was very savvy. But it won't do much or have much affect on congress. Really will help him with independents and his base.

    They will slam him on deficits obviously - but really, nothing he can do there.


    Oh, and stop arguing with bigtexx. Sooner people stop wasting their time there the sooner he will go away.
     
  12. subtomic

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    He is - he said he was from Houston while addressing a point about Obama and the energy industry.

    I agreed with much of the President's speech - particularly on the emphasis for rewarding pro-American business actions - but it's just a speech. I also liked how he emphasized what he can do alone as President, but then asked Congress to do their part as well. But at times, it came off a bit like a lecture to Congress, and I'm not sure how well that went over toward less friendly ears.

    What I really would have liked him to say - perhaps when emphasizing that Americans are the most productive workers in the world - is something like this:

    "Over the past 30 years, American workers have become more and more productive. Yet while the executives and board of directors have seen significant increases in their compensation, the average middle class has seen no increase when adjusted for inflation. In fact, despite their rise in productivity, they've actually seen a decrease. So more and more middle class families are relying on the government just to keep their bills paid and heads above water. What's wrong with this picture? Isn't America all about rewarding productivity? Isn't it in a business' interest to ensure its own employees can afford its product. Henry Ford saw the value of paying his employees enough to buy the cars they were building. That value led Ford to become one of the biggest companies in the world. Is Ford's thinking still true? I say it is, and I urge the business community to take all the money they've stowed it away and give it to the persons who have made them successful - their employees. I know that if you do that, your employees will pay you back by buying your products, giving you more success"

    I'm sure what I've just written would be considered class warfare by some of the libertarian free market purists, but I also think it would resonate with the rest of us who live in the real world.
     
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    ^I suspect he will get there. Can't be too partisan in the SOTU, though campaign stops are a different story.
     
  14. Depressio

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    Wow, really? There was a buy booing his suggestion of a bill to ban insider trading for Congress?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7cIXAGO2Y&t=70s

    An unrealistic request by Obama because a conflict of interest in Congres, but the booing was amusing.
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0oGsGspc72k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Barry passed out his koolaid before he gave the SOTU, you can clearly tell that the triple crown weave queen Sheila drank a hefty dose of it, she knocked over the other sheeps trying to get Barry's signature!
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UDDRiGIUYQo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    valorita's linked video was good so i thought i would embed it

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  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Good speech and one that didn't strike me as overly controversial. As one commentator on NPR said 80% of this speech could've been given by a Republican President.
     
  20. mc mark

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    Seems our conservative brothers on the board disagree with 91% of the country.

    Last night’s State of the Union speech received high marks from viewers across the country, a CBS poll shows. According to the poll, 91 percent of those who viewed the speech approved of the proposals put forth by President Obama, and 82 percent of viewers approved of Obama’s economic plans.
     

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