Rudy Gay's about to show the world he's on Durant's level

Hold on leebigez, you may want to avert your brain you may suffer an aneuerysm.

I'm about to perform a complex statistical maneuver to determine how my mistake of 18 shots vs. the 17 he actually averages means for his points per shot efficiency.

19/17 - 19/18 = .0620915033

Damn, it took me all day to come up with that. I may have to get a new version of excel to see if I can crunch that set of numbers, maybe he IS a high efficiency player after all ... right?

Honestly, I did watch him last night for the first 2 quarters after seeing this thread yesterday, it was on NBATV (MSG is blacked out on Time warner cable, so they show NBA in its spot instead), and I paid attention to Gay expressly because of it.

Guess what, as Dennis Green would say, he's who we thought he was 3years ago.

Not very high efficiency volume shooter who contributes little else despite his size, and who makes a huge amount of money. Do you think that the Grizzlies would have paid him that much money if they thought this was his ceiling? Or are you too busy reminiscing about the time you and DaDakota and Larry Micheaux owned the court at Fonde so it means you don't have to contemplate such matters. U JUST KNOW IT WHEN U SEE IT!

 

Durant is 3rd
Gay is tied for 36th (with Kevin Martin)

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Not sure if serious...


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Rudy Gay isn't a star, and most certainly wasn't worth the max.

Enjoy the mediocrity while it lasts, as that's about the best it'll ever get in Memphis.

 

And Rudy Gay was 41st that season.

 

LOL, and thus the genesis of this thread is revealed, what you meant to say was that Rudy Gay is about to show the world he's on Durant's level, when Durant was a year removed from high school.

 

okay? He's a good player, not great. It is better to look at WS/48, since games/minutes are not equal, but he would still rank about the same.

 

He was looking by position, apparently.

 

I don't see teams wanting to trade a top 4 pick for any combination of the "assets" that the Rockets have collected much less just one of them.

Who's the guy the Cavs offered the #4 pick in the 2011 NBA draft for again?

Lol, I have concluded that you have never actually seen Rudy Gay play.

I did ask you a set of questions. I'm eagerly waiting for your reply or is your head so far up your a$$ that it prevents you from doing so?

Here they are again:

Who led his team to victory the other night after being down 17 pts on the road?

Who has been leading his team to victory after victory during their current 7 game win streak?

Who's was that making all the high impact and clutch plays down the stretch?

Who's the guy that has a history of making high impact and clutch plays down the stretch?

Who's the guy the Cavs offered the #4 pick in the 2011 NBA draft for?

Too bad you didn't stick around for the final 2 qtrs to watch him close the game out with key rebounds, assists, and clutch shots. I even posted the highlights in this thread. I don't see how anybody who ACTUALLY watched the game can argue with the fact that Rudy led his team to victory last night and made all the high impact, clutch plays down the stretch.

 

Why do y'all keep bringing up the whole "But the Cavs offered the #4 pick for Rudy" argument? The #4 pick was Tristan Thompson, but probably should've been Jonas V. This draft was weak as hell, so why does it matter what the Cavs supposedly offered for Rudy? If someone offers a top 5 pick for him in the 2012 draft, then I'll be impressed.

 

The guy that Memphis was able to lose for the end of last year without missing a beat, and who they thus figured he'd be available for the price of a #4 pick in a weak draft and an expiring trade exception.

And I don't know how you can read the complaints about him being a low-efficiency player and not, at this point, worth the money for what he gives you, as at contradicted by this. Maybe he won the game ..great, so did KLowry7 last night when he put up a triple double...doesn't change the years worth of play that we're talking about.

Oh wait, I can believe you doing this, because you have a serial case of back-in-the-day-ism and a youtube clip of selected highlghts is more unbiased than a neutral assessment

 

I'm starting to think 'what' is a joke account whose purpose is to make people say 'what?' when they read his posts.

 

I didn't have to dominate fonde rec. I played there as well as pro am and I had my college education paid for at a d-1 school because I could do things on the court guys like you couldn't do. My college coach not only won d-2 championships and took swt to the tourney 2 times in 5 years, he also coached in the nba. Not saying that makes me an expert or anything, but I've never heard him tell me or any other player that shooting almost 50% is ineffecient. I've never heard him say shooting close to 40% makes you effecient either.

I've never argued 1 time in this thread that gay is as good offensively as durant. I marvel at the people in this thread and this board who act like he's a average player. As if its easy to find a guy who can take and make his own shot at a good rate. Btw, being a good 3pt shooter doesn't make you a good shooter and vice versa. Being a good shooter has a lot to do with shot selection and your % of makes. Bruce bowen was making 40% of his 3s but 50% at the ft line, does that mean he's a good shooter?

To me and maybe its just me, 47% from the field every night is an effecient shooting night. Top that off, its not like he's getting dunks and put backs all night. Its also not like martin who is leaking out before the defensive rebound is secure and spotting up for 3. He's getting his shots in the flow of the offense while being contested. I didn't think he was a max player. I think there are only a handful of max players in the league, but he won't flop on that contract. He won't be like rashard lewis and see his production hit a rapid decline. He'll finish it and get a smaller per year contract. I think he should shoot more, but he doesn't. He takes his 16 shots,makes almost half and get his 4 fts. That's what and who he is.

 

Rudy Gay doesn't need luck, headband or not

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Yeah, I don't think posters have watched him the last couple seasons. He's improved in that area considerably.

 

47% is definitely a good percentage for a perimeter player. But he's not paid like a good player, he's paid like a great player. And it's not really his shooting % that's the issue, it's the fact that his 4 FT's is pretty bad for guys in his pay grade. (he's an inefficient scorer, rather than shooter...)

Getting two points via free throw is very valuable skill, it's like drawing a 10 pitch walk in baseball with the bases empty vs. hitting a bases empty single on the first pitch. You gain a lot more as the game goes on. Kyle Lowry and Ricky Rubio both had horrible shooting nights last night, yet Kyle Lowry still put up a decent scoring night, becuase he got to the line again and again; he's one of the best in the league at drawing fouls. And to top it off he hits his free throws. So Kyle gets his 2 points, and but not only do you get the points, but you put the other team in foul trouble, and put yourself closer to the bonus setting yourself up for even more FT's later on.

That's better, IMO, than Gay hitting a 17 foot jumper with picture perfect form.