Rudy Gay's about to show the world he's on Durant's level

Advanced stats are not the end all or be all, but they are a pretty good indicator of measuring a players actual worth vs. his hype.

Rudy Gay is not a bad player, but his hype outweighs his actual worth on the court.

 

Well, other than that pretty much every NBA team uses them.

The funny part about luddites like yourself and DaDakota is that you run around citing regular stats like points and rebounds all the time, which were designed by newspaper writers to save ink and column space for advertisements....but anything that has some logical basis and tries to put these numbers in context....why that should be immediately rejected....because...it just should.

 

I miss the constant references to Spanoulis' 2P% as an indicator of his greatness.

This thread has been a good laugh.

 

Sorry but the only one Mayweather can beat on a daily basis is his wife.


On topic, Gay's 50% FG is nice, but if you look at him play he's way too soft to be a real difference maker. Whereas guys like Durant would take it hard to the rim, Gay would settle for jumpers and finesse moves, which is why a lesser player like Battier was a better fit last year, because Randolph was on a tear and the team was better because he was taking almost all of the shots.

In retrospect not taking Gay is a mistake on DM's part since 1-11 didn't really do anything. Gay was clearly the pick with the most potential, and if we had drafted him we would have either sucked if Gay played like he did in Memphis (and gotten Brandon Roy), OR Gay would have blossomed under JVG and become the player he could really be.

Those are all what-ifs though, if we got the "current" Rudy Gay our team would suck big time, and if we had signed him to his current max contract we would be so screwed.

 

In the long-term, sure, in the short term, knowing that Yao & McGrady's window was closing quickly, drafting Gay would have been even more inappropriate given that his learning curve was very steep.

 

Your GM disagrees:

http://www.box.com/shared/7bfsdslphl

 

There is nothing to really argue here. Rudy Gay has statistically been nearly the same player for 4 years, he is currently 25 years old, not 19-20 years old. He may make marginal improvements, but it is doubtful he ever does much more than that. Minutes are not an issue, maturity and age are not an issue, and shots are not an issue... this is not a TMac or Jermaine O'Neal situation.

Rudy Gay is a blackhole on offense, he is turnover prone and a poor passer.

He is a poor defender, and with his lack of instincts it is unlikely he will ever be better than average on defense.

Rudy Gay gets 18 points a game, on 17 shots a game... so he is a volume, inefficient scorer. Not that impressive with that many shots.

Last, he has a long term, near max contract which kills any value he has as as a scorer or rebounder.

 

This thread can be closed now.

 

Not really a head scratcher at all.

Rockets had a beast first 10 game schedule and were poor. They have reeled off six straight since then and could very easily win the next 5.

The sad part is, you are comparing your complete, ready to compete, finished product Memphis Grizzlies, to a collection of role players and spare pieces just waiting to be moved for a legit core.

The even sadder part is your team that is built around Rudy Durant is it is actually an apt comparison, team strength wise, to our advanced metric hodgepodge team consisting of late first and second round picks.

 

what? it's only half a game and you've had an easier schedule than us. We're coming for you!

Spoiler

I'm not saying we have a better roster but as long as Randolph is out we are the better team.

 

Memphis 9-6
Houston 9-7

Congratulations.

 

LOLOLOLOLOL. :grin:

 

You are 1/2 game ahead of a crappy Rockets team with a new coach...

You have an all star center, the best defensive swing player in the NBA, a solid (but not great) point guard and only have one impressive win this season .... you better have a better record than the Rockets.

 

Rudy's recent good performance and the recent Rockets 6-game winning streak have something in common: a rather easy schedule against mostly bad teams (and some of the good opponents were missing significant players).

Obviously, this is better than sucking and losing to bad teams, but the evidence is inconclusive.

 

i can't believe you've turned on this. that was perfect reason for drafting him

 

If you knew, in 2006, that Yao and Tracy were going to fall apart by 2009, that you couldn't trade them, and you had a 3 year window to get to the finals, you say "screw it let's start rebuilding now" fire sale everybody else, and flush 3 years?

Not a single GM in the world would make that pick.

 

but rudy gay is still a good asset, maybe not at his current price but morey wouldn't do that

 

No, the thing about you and other wannabes is you think just because you cite a different stat that you are somehow some basketball stat guru when you are not putting it in any more context than regular stats.

I don't reject advanced metrics, I reject people jumping on message boards and acting like they are typing something smart because you went to a site and typed a number that was 2 columns over.