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How much longer until Bud is demoted to 3rd string?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pge71188, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. redhotrox

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    Stuff like hustle and defense don’t fade away. They will always be there for Parsons and that’s the reason that he’s better than Bud.

    I agree with you that Bud is not as bad as he’s made out to be. I don’t think he’s a quality starter, but he can be a useful bench player in the right situation. He’s just the odd man out with McHale tightening up his rotation.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Whether or not Parsons can continue to hustle and play hard like that is up in the air, he did not do it in college, and I hope he does it in the pros, but playing hard over 82 games is really difficult, look at Scola nd Lowry, they are not playing as hard as they used to.......sometimes you just don't have that get up and go on certain nights.

    DD
     
  3. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Parsons has a couple of things going for him that Bud doesn't have. His defense and his rebounding, both excellent for a 3. Generally speaking, those will stick around if his shot isn't falling, and can help him stay on the court. Chase is a solid rotational player, in my opinion, but with the arrival of Parsons, his spot has suddenly become very crowded. It wouldn't surprise me if he's included in a deal by the deadline, but if he's not, Chase is a good player to have on your bench. And he has a very good contract from a Morey point of view.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I agree with all of that Deckard, but people are overplaying Parsons start, if you recall Bud was doing the same things as he was as a rookie playing with Lowry in transition, it was a dunkathon and many were put back slams too.

    The key is, that once players settle in, they sometimes pull their foot off the gas as a way to conserve energy, and if that happens, Parsons advantage is gone.

    I do think Parsons fits better as a starter because of his D, his hustle and his rebounding, but as the team changes through trades, that could change as well.

    As for Bud, I believe that the team has changed, and he is not as good a fit here with McHale as he was with Adelman, so trade him to Minny and see what you can get.

    DD
     
  5. MrButtocks

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    Bud is backup material at worst, possibly even a starter. The problem is that his shot is incredibly overrated. Run him off all the curls and screens you want, he just won't hit at a great rate. He's a lot like Carlos Delfino in that regard: he can hit a few tough ones that splash the net but will never be consistent. But like Delfino, he's also a willing passer and a good rebounder for his position. And what do you know, Delfino is starting in Milwaukee.

    Stop focusing on the negatives, it'll drive you crazy. If TWill or Morris outplay him and push him to third string, great. But that hasn't happened yet.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Like I said when Parsons had his breakout game:

    Goodbye Bud. :(

    When a rookie so severely outplays you to where you are getting DNPs, that's not a good sign.
     
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    I think that the problem with a lot of the players, not including lowry and the one man break, is that they depended on ball movement and cutting to get the best available
    shot.
    Mctalky's offense just turns everybody into a steve novak. I thought that the reason we brought in rio grande's finest was to keep the same offense from the fuhrer days and allowing mctalky do what he does best, talk, work with bigs and motivate?



    Not going to lie, I miss The Ruler.
     
  8. mvpcrossxover

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    man, cbud's game dropped drastically :(
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/f1wLVzQ2PTc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Parsons also has ballhandling and much better decisionmaking.

    What the heck are they teaching these guys at Arizona? It sure isn't the finer points of basketball.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You have to call that play and have it set up to work, McHale's offense does not call the play.

    People forget that is how he plays.....when he is involved.......

    He is not a defensive stopper he is an all around player who can score the ball.

    DD
     
  11. mvpcrossxover

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    Still waiting for Chris Finch to get the promotion :).

    Any insider news on Chris Finch? He seems like a quiet coach.
     
  12. crash5179

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    Yeah I gotta agree with this. Parsons effects the game in so many ways even when he is not scoring, rebounding, defense and passing are all advanced for a rookie.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    No doubt he has earned the job, but it has been what, 15 games?

    A little perspective here is missing.

    DD
     
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    This is from last month.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ol...ch-unfazed-by-chaotic-start-to-US-season.html
     
  15. Carl Herrera

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    There are guys who sit on the bench because they can't play a lick. DD's boy Thabeet is in this camp. DD's boy Jordan Hill, too, is likely in this camp, at least most games.

    There are other guys who sit on the bench because they can't figure out how to fit their skill set into an NBA game. DD's other boy Spanoulis is in this camp.


    DD's boy Budinger is not in the above camps. He can play some and has been a decent rotation players. The issue isn't necessarily about whether Budinger can play, but whether the team can find a 5-man group in the rotation involving Budinger that works consistently. The team is generally having a hard time find groups other than the current starting 5 that work, resulting in heavy minutes on the starters and longer minutes by the 3 main reserves (Dragic, Lee and Patterson) who have began to show glimpses of hope.

    I think the coaching staff wants to get a few 5-man groups right first before experimenting with others.
     
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    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Ah, I see so you think calling someone my boy is gonna bother me....gotcha.....

    Thank god Jeff Van Gundy's tired butt was fired from Houston, right VanGundier?

    Oh wait, sorry to use your banned nickname...

    LOL - go make dick jokes fool.

    DD
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    DD, I think you are missing a little perspective. Bud is your boy so you concentrate on 20-40 decent games(depends on how you define decent) that Bud has had during his 2.5 years on a Rockets, and dismiss the 50+ crappy games he has had.

    Although Parsons has not proven that he is our starting SF of the future, he has had 10+ good games and 0 totally crappy games. Even when Parsons isn't scoring, he plays the best defense on the team EVERY night and is good for 5-8 rebounds EVERY night he has played significant minutes. He's also good for a few steals and doesn't turn the ball over. Parsons is a coach's dream role player. He's gives you something positive EVERY night, and once in while surprises you with something more.

    The reason I'm so down on Bud is because as a role player that only provides scoring, he isn't very consistent at it. Remember when Cat came off the bench as our 6th man, he was ALWAYS good for 15+ points. That is what GOOD role players are supposed to be able to do. Not give you 15 points one night and 3 points the next given the same minutes. Even Von Wafer was worth 10 points every night when he was with us.

    Budinger's pro career is resembling his college career. Promising first year that didn't go anywhere. There is a reason why he dropped to the second round after being considered a lotto pick his freshman season. Its called unfulfilled promise. Bud hasn't developed in any significant way in 6 years.
     
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  19. Z-Ro&Trae

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    Didn't watch the game last night but I guess Bud got T-Will'ed.
     
  20. ashishduh

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    Nobody in their right mind would play Bud over Lee right now because Lee's only disadvantage is his size against bigger 3's but Bud can't guard those guys either.
     

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