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Daryl Morey on the Rockets 2009 Lottery "Bust" Pickups

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    When has morale/chemistry been an issue for the Rockets since Morey has been GM? I remember it being an issue before he got here, but generally over the last 4 or 5 years morale/chemistry has been a strength of our team. That happens when you seek out quality character guys and have strong leadership in the locker room.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    1. The whole players-hate-Morey-cuz-he-is-mean-to-them-and-treats-them-like-assets thing is a story made up by internet drama queens.

    There is no sign that players and agents don't trust Morey enough to work with him. It didn't prevent Sam Dalembert from signing with the Rockets despite having a higher offer from the Kings-- and, in prior years it didn't prevent the Rockets from getting Ariza and Miller in free agency. It didn't prevent the Marc Gasol and his agent from working with the Rockets on a potential offer/sign-and-trade. It didn't prevent the Nene from putting Houston on his list of locations until the Gasol trade was vetoed and he ultimately (and rather belatedly) signed back with Denver. And remember, Nene has the same agent as Kevin Martin, too.

    What Morey said in the interview was, in fact, nothing unduly critical of the players-- he didn't question anyone's character or talent, just that he was disappointed that member of this group has not earned more rotation minutes.

    2. The Morey-suck-cuz-his-2009-lotto-bets-aren't-playing thing is only believable to idiots. Teams have 13-15 players on the roster, 8-9 gets into the rotation, so there are always 5-6 guys not playing.

    If a player not being in the rotation means the team made a mistake on him, then every team has 5 or 6 mistakes on the roster every year.
     
  3. RedStaag

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    T-Mac's shenanigans and being called out by certain players sure affected team chemistry

    The kevin martin, scola and dragic trade that didnt go thru affected team chemistry

    adelman benching several players and playing only his favorites affected team chemistry

    having so many guys at the same position (Sf) sure does affect team chemistry

    keeping your young guys on the bench, or sending them to the d-league affects morale

    calling your players assets or criticizing them in the media causes low morale and affects team chemistry
     
  4. okierock

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    I just wish Morey would trade all the 09 players along with RedStagg to anyone for a bag of kitty litter. We could use it to soak up all the bs dribbling out of RedStagg about pandering to a bunch of lazy overpaid losers who have not the fire in their bellies to beat out a couple of 2nd round picks for the chance at signing multi MILLION dollar contracts.

    This kind of pandering sissy treatment of players leads to a team like.... o say the Wizards or maybe the clippers of the last 20 years.

    No thanks.

    NBA basketball players primary job is to compete and these losers can't even win minutes over Chandler Parsons. He showed them how to get minutes they are just to lazy and butt hurt about nobody GIVING them something they are paid to COMPETE for.

    If we are going to give players minutes we might as well change our name to the Marshmallows because teams with real competitors like Kobe or Dirk or D-Wade are going to bend us over nightly. On second thought maybe we should call ourselves EASY PIECE or FREE RIDE.
     
  5. RedStaag

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    1) Samual Dalembert is an old fraud who will have no problem staying on the bench for the rest of the season as long as he is getting his checks. Also, don't you think its alarming that out of all the major stars that Morey have tried to acquire during free agency, his only taker is Dalembert. And why the hell did we get Dalembert when we had a younger player in Thabeet that needs development in real games but who is now stuck to this bench while the old man dalemberts does his thing.

    2) Morey is openly calling out the players, ignoring the fact that they havent had any meaningful playing time except for maybe Jordan Hill- wtf, how classy of him. Teams have mistakes on their teams, but look how many mistakes we have on our team. For a man touted as one of the smartest men in American sports, his mistakes are very glaring and he hasnt achieved much. Obviously his stats, and methods are not translating into real life. The disparity in talent level on the rockets roster is not high. we have several players that are all on the same level of skill and talent and no major star. Those other teams you talk about, have one or two or 3 stars and role players and the scrubs. On the rockets, we have role players and scrubs.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    Morey did not call out any players. Your stupid ass has a deficiency in reading comprehension abilities.
     
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  7. RedStaag

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    lol see with that mentality, you will never create a star in Houston, not in todays NBA. Sure, you will create the scrappy players like Parsons, chuck Hayes and Lowry, but they are not stars and they WILL NEVER BE STARS. They are all role players shining on a team with no stars.

    Don't be mad cos they're NBA players and making a lot of money. They deserve to be treated a certain way, not like minimum wage workers at Burger King. You tamper with a nba's player's confidence and ego, you end up killing everything about that player
     
  8. RedStaag

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    read my lips carl herrera, and i dont give a pink **** about how long u have been on this site, F.U.CK. YOU.

    and speaking about stupid ass, see bolded part- terrible sentence composition

    yo CLUTCH, i got called a stupid ass so u better not trip on this one.
     
  9. durvasa

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    Because the Rockets want to win this season, and they weren't confident that Thabeet was good enough to be in the rotation. The coach is free to insert him into the rotation, but he hasn't done so. None of Thabeet's coaches have done so. What does that tell you about his abilities to help a team win?

    And I understand you think its dumb that the Rockets are trying to win this year. Maybe it is, but that's the answer to your question.
     
  10. MadMax

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    insert "u mad bro?" image here.
     
  11. RedStaag

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    u really think the rockets can win anything with the current roster. at best, they r gona be average this year again, another 7th or 8th seed, another 14-18 draft pick and another first round exit.
     
  12. okierock

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    You are so wrong. Players with competitive fire live to play against the best and to be the best.

    Name a top team in this league that has anything close to the type of pandering treatment of players you describe. They don't exist because it won't work.

    You think Jordan or Hakeem or McHale or Kobe or DWade would worry about who is in front or behind them on the roster? They would lace em up and kick your a$$ no matter who you are. Jordan would have kicked players like Thabeet and Hill out of practice for not competing. I want players like that, those players are true stars not squishy fools gold players that get their feelings hurt cause you drafted somebody that plays their spot.

    And just to be clear, the 09 players won't be NBA players making millions for long. I'm not mad I just want them gone.
     
  13. RedStaag

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    u really think the rockets can win anything with the current roster. at best, they r gonna be average this year again, another 7th or 8th seed, another 14-18 draft pick and another first round exit.
     
  14. durvasa

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    I agree, as currently composed this team is not going to be better than a first round exit if they even make it that far. And I'm not saying I'm agreeing with their direction.

    But they want to make the playoffs. Maybe its a money thing, maybe they feel the experience of winning will help in the player development, or maybe they feel being a playoff team will make Houston a more attractive destination. I don't know what it is.
     
  15. RedStaag

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    You're stuck in the old school. Hakeem and Jordan earned everything, so did Kobe as a youngster. Now D-wade, Lebron, Carmelo etc were pampered and treated like stars before they became stars, why, because they had the potential. And this is the new school, old man. Not back in the days. You get a star in the making, you treat him like one. You think if Lebron had been sent to the D-League a couple of games or had to sit on the bench while ricky davis started- just so he can EARN IT- you honestly think he would have developed into what he is today
     
  16. RedStaag

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    But how is the experience of winning helping in player development when our major young core are riding the bench and getting no pt or being sent to the d-league to play meaningless. isnt this the right time to put those young players on the floor to earn meaningful minutes and an opportunity to prove one and for all that they are busts.

    Start Lowry, Martin, T-Will/Parsons, Morris/Patterson, Thabeet. Let Scola be the 6th man, he's old and needs the rest. Whats the worst that could happen with that squad. They r going to be fun to watch.
    At worst- bottom rung in the conference and a top pick
    At best- they make it deep into the playoffs cos they r younger.

    Either ay, if they r out future, why r we crapping on their development
     
  17. okierock

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    Lebron did earn it by kicking a$$ from day one. Are you comparing any of our 09 players to Lebron? We don't have any stars in the making, so what the heck are you talking about? These guys are making Millions of dollars to beat people at basketball, it ain't rocket science. They beat people, they make lots of money, they don't they stop making lots of money.

    Just to be clear, what the heck do you mean by "You get a star in the making, you treat him like one." How would you go about doing this?
     
  18. ArtV

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    It was worth a shot. Shouldn't have put the pick in for TWill though because that's only something you do with a person with better odds but overall I'm glad Morey is trying for the homerun.

    And as far as speaking out, there isn't a GM in the NBA that doesn't already know what Morey said. And I don't think there will be any effect to our team when the DNP-CD teammates hear that they weren't the best lottery picks.

    To me Ainge was the bonehead for saying he'd trade the big 3 now for the right deal. You just came out in the media to tell your best 3 players that you'd trade them in a heartbeat right now. That can't be good for team morale.
     
  19. ashishduh

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    Only you would think that watching a bunch of terrible ballers like Williams and Thabeet is "fun" lol.
     
  20. HamJam

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    Can we all please stop responding to any of RedStaag's posts?

    The dude thinks Thabeet should be starting. I mean, come on. He says Lowry will never be a star, but that we should try to turn Thabeet into one.

    The guy is obviously not very smart, and is incapable of being reasoned with.

    Also, just to be clear, this is not a post to RedStaag, but to everyone else pleading with you all to stop talking to the guy. And just to set a good example, I will not reply (or even read) whatever nonsensical angry tirade he may direct toward this post.
     

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