MLK day question: Are black people becoming too entitled in America?

ROFL. I will wait to see how this plays out before I render my opinion.

 

He did. And then whoever this anonymous quote is from, goes on to ...

stereotype and judge black people as a whole by their race as opposed to individuals by character.

As do you, unless we're to believe you've never had bad service from non-black people.

 

The only thing I fear is God. I just want to give others a chance to speak before I speak my mind.

Don't worry, its coming.

 

Affirmative action was a mistake in the sense that it probably did screw some white people... But African Americans those were not being given any opportunities to begin with so I understand there to probably be more value there than anything.

I think the mistake or bad thing that happened to the black community has been the lack of strong lead 40 years give or take. There have been a few, but mostly sports/music stars were too dominant and it focused the young black community on the wrong type of success. You hear someone like Bill Cosby seemingly calling it pretty straight forward nowadays and the black community does not want to hear it.

Mr. Obama doesn't seem particularly interested in weighing in is something I have noticed.

 

If you:

1. cite MLK to back your point; and

2. follow it up with generalizations based on skin color...


you're doing it wrong.

 

Exactly my thoughts. MLK would denounce this thread.

 

Okay, here it is:

<..... I wonder if he would denounce the way blacks are acting, especially the young ones who are the most violent ones in history.....> First point, "the way blacks are acting". How are blacks acting? There are approx. 1 billion black people on the planet. Trust me when I say that there is a wide variety of opinions from person to person, much less in the global African community as a whole. As far as the most violent ones in history...compared to who? I would agrue that wars waged by European powers and their descendants have been far more destructive.


<They are loudmouthed, abrasive, etc.Who in their right mind would want to be around people like that.>

Once again, over 1 billion Africans on the planet. We are all different. Great generalization.

<The black leaders of today continue to play the race card and victim card.>Who are these "black leaders"? When were they elected by black people. Apparently I missed my chance to cast my ballot. Are they really "black leaders" or are they simply vocal black people that the media parades in front of a predominately white audience to represent all black people on the planet? Think about that.

<but most of blacks are lazy and just wanted things given to them and if they don't get it, they cry racism. >Black Americans have spending power that is higher than alot of nations on the planet. That doesn't sound like a lazy group of people. The vast majority of African Americans are hard working and industrious....that is how we have always been. The difference is, we now are killing ourselves working on builidng our own businesses instead of somebody elses wealth.

How many black people have you met?

<They have set their cause back a long way.>

Who they hell is "they" and what is "their cause"?

<If they want people to like them and respect them, they need to conduct themselve in a civilized matter. Then maybe they can acheive some sence of equality.">Wow...civilized matter....first of I think you mean..MANNER. Secondly, wth do you mean by civilized? Are you saying that simply because those African community does not live the way you thing we should we are not civilized. Sounds like the logic of the "colonizers" who invaded and plundered the African continent. Afterall it doesn't matter, they are "real" people anyway....real people are "civilized".

<Exactly my experience, the worst attitude in the service industry is from black employees, it's like that you owe them some money and have not repaid them. Black people (not bums and beggars on the street) asked me for food or something else in a super "smooth" way. When I give it to them, they take it into their pocket in a hurry and don't even bother say thank you. In other cultures, this is absolutely an shame. Once a time a black cashier messed up prices of most of my purchased item and did not feel a bit embarrassed.>Two examples of bad customer service experience lol boo hoo suck it up. Again, how many black people do you know?

<Affirmative action robbed opportunities from other groups to go to better school or go to school at all.>This is probably true, but you do know that the majority of people who benefited from AA are not black, the ones who recieve the most benefits are caucasian females.

In short.....your are very close minded.

 

I thought about starting a thread on how MLK would feel about Blacks in America today. Certainly he would be proud of the advancements that have been made, but I think he would be disappointed by many.

To answer your question, no.

I'd say the black community has more problems with thinking the world is against them (and to a certain degree, maybe it is). Some give in and become part of the cycle. Others work hard and improve their standing. Others try hard and fail.

 

No

Are wealthy white folks becoming too entitled in America?

Yes

 

LOL @ Too entitled.....should we shuffle and grin some more for you?

Incredible.

 

The blacks just need the Newt to teach them about having jobs. Until then they will be losers.

 

Well stated once again by MadMax.

 

loudmouthed and abrasive, you say? Yeah, I've never seen a white person like that. Not ever.* This is complete thread failure, but I appreciate the OP showing us his colors. Good reminder that we still have a long way to go, (or that we can't even get to a color-blind society.) Blech.

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, idiot.

 

I think we should kill any affirmative action measures, and make it a complete meritocracy.

There should never be restrictions on whom employers can hire or not based upon a persons race.

Let everyone compete equally...let the market weed out the racist companies.

If a Chinese owner wants to only hire Chinese, let them, they will miss out on the other races business and a different owner will be able to take advantage by being more forward thinking in their hiring practices.

Affirmative action is a Negative action, IMO.

DD

 

Thanks for doubling down on the stupid in this thread. Meanwhile back in reality - we actually had this policy for about 100 years and "the market" didn't weed out anything.

 

Totally against, but i understand what you are saying on some points like black youth in america. As a minority (not black) i think its goodto be open and honest about these sensitive topics that we would not usually discuss.

first of the concept of race, a coin termed by a frenchman francois bernier in 1648 has little scientific backing. Genetically all humans are 99.2% the same, there is very minute differences between ethnicities. Literally a white man can have more in common with a black man genetically than another fellow white man. Genetics is not just black and white, there are many variations.

ALTHOUGH, we do see health problems and sicknesses that are more prevelant in a given ethnicity. This topic is open for debate, and is being debated hotly in the scientific commuity. Drugs like Bidil, which hit the market in 2005 is the first race based drug that caused a huge uproar.

in terms of your criticism towards the black commnity. Listen, ive gone many places in the world and i can tell you that where ever you have poverty- you have ignorance and crime.there are good people and bad people anywhere you go, people you can trust and people you cant.

Minorities have been oppressed for over 300 years in america, civil rights act was passed in 64. Statistically, white males still have a greater chance of being highered, getting a loan approved, making more money than a minority/woman,owning a buisness, and going to a better schools than minorities.

It seems as if white people ( and i am part white) have advantages on many playing fields and have not had to face the same discrimination as minorities. Yet whenever you try to have something as insignificant as affirmative action, white conservatives call foul. Give me a break, even with that white people are still on top of minorities in the areas ive listed and many more. Just because a black president is in office doesnt mean the issue of race has gone away. There are still many discrepancies that need to be adressed.

Handouts? Oh yeah, the welfare that goes to more white people than black people is money that goes back into the economy anyways. Even before the bush/obama bailouts, how many hundreds of bilions of dollars were given to failing hedge funds, banks, and large companies? It seems american "capitalists" have a track record of not shying away from government handouts. But thats not welfare right?

now as far as black youth in america, education is important. I think **** like BET perpetuates a self degrating style within the black community. Really the "thug" style knows no colors, we see thugs in white,black, latino, asian, native americans watch that movies "malibus most wanted" its funny but true. I honestly tink BETwich is owned by white peole, is in malicious in half the **** they play has to do with blacks and crime as if thats all the community knows.

 

So you are complaining about affirmative action because it keeps whites from being cashiers?

And you need to elaborate on your experiences btw.

For example, I remember exactly 2 times that 2 different black dudes asked me for an extra buck to hook me up with extra chicken fingers when I was buying some at Minute Maid during Astros games. Does that 2 times in 10 years really mean that all black people will hook me up with extra food? No ***** head, it doesn't. But I have vivid memories of those experiences as opposed to other ones because they were outside the norm and therefore much more memorable.