Chuck, Dally and Gasol Now that's something to consider about..... but I think it's good for two years only and we had to hope for young talents nonetheless
I saw a lot of assumming and nothing happened as usual. 19m for gasol and 14m for nene. Not to mention sending paul to la. That was a bad move all the way around. WeKve seen gasol mope around and try to be the man and not win a playoff game. We've seen nene with as much physical talent as any big in the league and not even grab 10 rebs or score anywhere close to 20pts. Now, if the overwhelming feel was scola is getting too old and martin is a system player, then cool. That move,trade, or whatever you call it wouldn't have meant much in terms of postseason success. All this he can just flip nene for this or that is bs. He can't even flip the so called good young assetts for anything.
I have never once heard you say anything positive about any move the organization has made. Not one. Lowry/Lee/Nene/Gasol is a great team, especially in a weak west.
Nene and Gasol both prefer to play at PF, so I I would have rather gone Gasol? Dalembert. Great mixture of offense and defense there. Gasol/PPat Dalembert/Chuck Beastly front court.
Agreed, there isnt a ton of longevity with that lineup, but neighter is Pau Gasol... so... The Gasol trade in itself told me that Les and Morey do really, truely want to compete as soon as possible. One would have to think that if they were following the Boston Celtics model to a title they MUST have had another move up their sleave for another top flight wing player they thought they could aquire.
What's so great about that? For the record, I've sad that it was a good move for morey to try to find the next jermaine o'neal. Just because I don't buy into the bs that many do doesn't mean anything in terms of the rockets. Maybe you and I view greatness different. Maybe greatness in your opinion is 1st rd exit to the eventual champs. Or maybe its the 34m committed to gasol and nene. I'm all for spending that kind of money on great players, but nene and gasol don't qualify as that.
Theres actually lots of good young centers in the league nowadays...just not a lot of 'superstar' ones like Howard... if Morey can pry Greg Monroe from Detroit we could build around Lowry and Monroe.
I know what greatness is and you need a Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Howard for that. Thats not an option. Which teams do you think are going to knock us out in the first round? The only clear cut better team to me would be OKC. Lowry / Flynn Lee / Williams Parsons / Budinger / Morris Nene / Patterson / Hill Gasol / Hayes I think that team gets your homecourt in the first round vs. Utah, LAC, Denver or Portland all of which I beleive we would be favored in. Second round would be tougher with a Dallas, San Antonio, Memphis or LAL matchup but all are certainly winnable. We might not get past OKC, but I think multiple trips to the WCF is certainly feasable with that lineup.
I personally think Gasol/Gasol was plan 1A and Gasol/Nene was plan 1B. Marc and Pau's game can be synergistic and the younger brother is a better salary bargain. I don't believe that the restricted free-agent thing would've been a wet towel if the player asked management not to match. Gasol/Gasol/Hayes/Patterson is the BEST front line in basketball. With Lowry, you have 3 legit all star level talent. All you need is a solid defender/shooter like Lee and a versatile 3 and you have a 3 yr window to be championship contenders.
Yeah, if only Marc had asked harder when Morey was considering signing him to an offer sheet. Marc Gasol was never a real option for any team not named the Memphis Grizzlies. Under any scenario. Period.
I really don't get why it's not a possible scenario. Help me understand why. If a restricted free agent asks a team to not resign him, why would the team do so and risk having an unhappy player + bad reputation around the league? Morey would have probably given the Grizz a few players/perks for their troubles. Players are not slaves. You cannot sign them and tell them to perform to their best of abilities if they really wanted to be somewhere else (see Odom). Once again, if I'm missing something that's right infront of me, please explain.
The only way Gasol could get out of Memphis would have been For him to accept the qualifying offer, which would have put him on a one-year, dirt cheap contract. The Griz would still have Bird rights on Gasol after that season. And while Gasol could not be traded without his consent during that year, the Griz could still gain some assets from any team to which he wanted to be traded. The whole time, Memphis would have an entire extra season to try to convince Marc to re-sign. For the top players, teams need to retain them. It's not like OKC would have let Durant just walk last summer had he told them he wanted out. The Thunder would have played it the same way. There was just no result that didn't have Marc Gasol in a Memphis jersey to start the 2011-12 season. Sorry to burst your bubble, but go ask any GM. I bet even Morey himself (the only GM to even go through the motions of talking about an offer sheet) would tell you the same thing.
I still don't think you quite answered his question. We understand that he was a restricted FA but if Marc Gasol made it clear that he does not want to have anything to do with the Griz and his destination is Houston, then I'm not sure if the Grizzlies would have forced him to stay ? He didn't have a contract, the Rockets gave him an offer sheet and if at that time he truly did not want to play for the Griz he would demand that they not match it and boom there is a good chance he would have been a Rocket. Unfortunately for us he wanted to stay in Memphis and the rest is history.
The old man in my dream told me if we traded for P. Gasol, we would get M. Gasol and plays the Gasol Bros for a glory.
"A restricted free agent is subject to his current team's Right of First Refusal, meaning that the player can be signed to an offer sheet by another team, but his current club reserves the right to match the offer and keep the player. An offer sheet is a contract offer of at least 1 year made to a restricted free agent. The player's current club has three days to match the offer or loses the player to the new team" I wanted to compare this to Rudy Fernandez's situation in Portland. He wasn't getting minutes and was pretty unhappy. I believe he got fined for demanding a trade. Then when Portland didn't oblige immediately, he put a big stink about it. His agent probably told Blazers that he will choose the qualifying option and leave the next year. Let's say a team offered Rudy an offer sheet. My question is why would Portland match it to get a disgruntled player back, especially if retaining that player meant spending ~$12 million a year as in the case of Marc Gasol. Am I wrong to assume that if Marc when to Heisley/Wallace and told them, "look, I really appreciate what you guys have done for me but I really want to be with Pau, so please do not match HOU's offer". Marc's agent would make sure that Grizz agreed to Marc's request before having his player sign any official offer from HOU, using the threat of Marc taking a one year qualifying option then leaving Grizz next year as an unrestricted free agent and they lose him for nothing. Morey would then call Wallace and try to give him some sort of compensation through a trade or whatever other option. Are you telling me that the Grizz would, out of spite, go back on their agreement with a player/agent (terrible repercussions) and deny a person the right to be with family (If the Pau trade to HOU had gone through by this time)? By technicality, I understand that if Rox offered an offer sheet to Marc (and he signed), Grizz have the right to first refusal. My point is that a player has leverage even as a restricted free agent to decide where he wants to be, to a certain degree ofcourse. I hope I made some sense and am not completely off on my understanding of the CBA.
