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John Lucas III 1st start: 25 pts, 8 reb, 8 ast, 1 stl

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by BreakYoSelfFool, Jan 12, 2012.

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  1. BreakYoSelfFool

    BreakYoSelfFool Member

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    John Lucas III puts up Derrick Rose #s, maybe we should have gave him a start. I didn't know Johnny had it in him.
     
    #1 BreakYoSelfFool, Jan 12, 2012
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    28 shots.



    28 shots.
     
    #2 asmith8266, Jan 12, 2012
  3. jopatmc

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    Aw, the reality check takes all the wind out of that balloon, doesn't it?
     
    #3 jopatmc, Jan 12, 2012
  4. Rockets34Legend

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    Umm, wrong forum.
     
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  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Kobe numbers then. Lol
     
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  6. RV6

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    It was against the Wizards, so there's an * involved...
     
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  7. BreakYoSelfFool

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    25 pts on 28 shots is decent, 1 of 7 from 3 not so much, but I can see D. Rose doing both, like when he went 4-17 for 13 pts vs Golden State with 1-8 from 3. Of course if Rose shot 28 shots, he would more than likely be over 30 pts, but this isnt Rose's first career start.

    Also, he shot way better than any other starter, Deng 5-21, Boozer 2-7, Brewer 1-6, Noah 2-5

    And how hard is it to get 8 ast when your team is shooting 36%.
     
    #7 BreakYoSelfFool, Jan 12, 2012
  8. J.R.

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    28 shots, 45 minutes, Wizards

    :p

    Otherwise, good for John for stepping up. :) Need someone to fill in while Rose is out.(Hopefully NFL)
     
    #8 J.R., Jan 12, 2012
  9. TEXNIFICENT

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    28 shots? Ice that elbow!
     
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  10. emjohn

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    No, it isn't. It's absolutely Antoine Walker Memorial volume shooter territory.

    PPS
    1.50+: Elite efficiency
    1.30: decent
    1.20 and below: poor
    1.10 and below: horrendous

    He managed less than 1 point per shot. That's literally hurting your team.
     
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    I didn't watch any of it but from viewing the box score, it was a slopfest. Bulls were lucky they were playing the Wizards. If you hold a team to 31% from the field and 64 points, you better win even with JL3 at PG taking 28 shots. Luol Deng was 5-21 and the Bulls still won by 14. People who saw the game probably have sore eyes.
     
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    All that aside, it still is a notable performance and he deserves congratulations because of the tough road he's travelled. I like how Thibs takes a page from JVG in giving the opportunity to his old players, brings a paternal side to him.
     
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    Lucas also had a team-high 16pts against the Hawks a few nights ago.

    He was actually going to play for Yao Ming's team like he did the past 2 years, but Yao ended up choosing a much cheaper player (Ryan Forehan-Kelly) instead.
     
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    Lucas didn't have a good shooting game, that's for sure. But I don't think PPS is a good measure because it ignores points from foul shots.

    As an example, if someone (Dwight Howard) took 5 shots and scored 20 pts that would be a PPS of 4, when in reality 12 of the 20 pts came from free throws, which he only shot 12/20.
     
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    Apparently Lucas had no backup in the game because Mike James, who they just signed, didn't make it to Chicago in time.
     
    #15 lalala902102001, Jan 12, 2012
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    Forehan-Kelly got injured and was replaced by Marcus Landry-- Carl's brother. It's all very incestuous.
     
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    No he made it there, but I'm sure Thibodeau didn't want to throw him out there for long minutes without any practice with the team.

    [​IMG]

    Good to see Lucas have a big game, though. The 8 assists is very impressive. 28 shots is a ton, but he's known for getting shots up in a hurry.
     
    #17 batkins, Jan 12, 2012
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    Orange Power!!!
     
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    5 years too late to matter.
     
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    No, it doesn't. PPS includes free throws. That's actually a critical component of the formula.

    If a player can draw a foul and get 1-2 points off a non-FGA, it increases the likelihood that he can draw another foul if he is given the ball again. Over a large sample size, this bears itself out.

    That's why Kevin Martin is wearing a Rockets uniform right now and why Marc Cuban was cursing that he "only" got Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood in 2010 instead of Martin.
     
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