Nailed it, his immaturity and lack of internal recognition for his shortcomings are what keep him nailed to the bench. DD
You honestly interpreted that quote as "TWill needs 15mpg but other rookies don't"? If you did, you have trouble with context.
Right now, it appears you are correct. I'd like to know for sure by seeing TWill out there for a quarter running the show with shooters around him. It may be terrible ugly. Wouldn't surprise me. The biggest thing I am questioning about him is his mentality, just like what you said above. I'd just like to know for sure like I know for sure about Hasheem.
The context was giving Williams playing time. Geez. I see this stuff you are doing now in the class room every semester. This isn't Ricardian economics. It is commentary from one guy during a freaking game when he was asked about Williams getting playing time. Roll with it. So what if it does not support your opinion. If you want to snark at least show enough intellectual honesty to get my meaning and argument correct. And I never stated other rookies do not deserve the time. No wonder so many old posters fade away off this board time and time again.
Batman Jones, consider this: If McHale gives TWill minutes for underachieving and not concentrating, then what message would that send the hardworking / deserving players who got benched just so the head-case could work things out on the court. What you are actually saying is McHale never should have played Parsons, because TWill deserves to be pampered, so he can work out his issues on the court. Think about that. That is indeed what you are saying. Or if he does play Martin, Lee, Bud, TWill, and Parsons (5 players at two spots)...then Morris should just rot in the NBDL. As a coach, you must set boundaries and expectations and manage minutes. When you bench a deserving player like Parsons (and Morris) in favor of a head-case, you send the wrong message, and the consequences of rewarding bad play can be disastrous in the locker-room -- the actual good players stop believing in the coach. Besides...Kyle Lowry deserves to play with the best players on the team ... and TWill is currently not one of them. TWill was given a chance by McHale...it's not like TWill was never getting minutes. Adelman gave TWill minutes after the trade, as well. Now you must give the other players a chance ... or they might never develop.
Also, comparing TWill to Rodman is not fair. Rodman, while a headcase in his off court behaviors, was a smart player on court. In fact, Rodman was one of the most cunning players I've ever seen. TWill is nowhere close to that.
I have to agree with majority of comments on Twill, he appears to be talented athlete with a low bball IQ. Everytime I see him jump in the air with no idea of what he's going to do with the ball, I go wow, seriously. Also, he's on of the fatest players on the court and constantly jogs back on defense. He shows no hustle on the court and everything with him is predetermined on the court and not fluid. For example, before the ball is swung to him, he's already made up his mind that he's either shooting a 3 or driving to the bucket. We all see the potential, but he thinks this is a pickup game. How could he not see what hard work get's you. Parsons starting, Chase bench (he's no better than Twill), and Chuck Hayes 5yrs and $21 mln (my man, met him in Suitmart and gave him some dressing advice, I bet he's never step foot in there again).
So that makes 3 coaches that don't believe that The Squid is good enough to play (yet). I know he is trying and all that, but talent usually floats to the surface. If he is truly this spectacular all around talent someone should/will notice. I know there are more cases of talented players being benched and then given a chance to shine and becoming great (or maybe there aren't) however, only Drazen Petrovic comes to mind and maybe TMAC.
At least T Will can play some D with his athleticism. The flying rooster looks clueless out there. No intensity whatsoever. I'm all for Parsons starting, but then bring in the hooptie and let Bud (aka the Flying Rooster) ride the pine like an albino mixed with a little ginger should.
I don't think this is Rocket science. And I don't think we need depth psychology to make an intelligent guess of things to try. This is both a coaching and a player / team issue. Of all the players on the team, he has as good a chance or better of getting to the rim whenever he wants. The problem, as I see it, is, because we have no "superstar," TEAM is emphasized for both defense and offense. Well, I think this is one instance where I would give him the go-ahead to drive and score first and pass second. We hear, at least from the broadcasters that T-Will has a "pass first" mentality. I think this is shown in the playing time he's gotten. And I don't buy the low BB IQ in his case. What we're seeing is a player that is subject to "thinking" too much, precisely because he gets conflicted between TEAM and "Should I fly by my guy and do my best to score?" I think in this particular case, the game will become easier and clearer to him if he thinks, "drive and score first", whenever possible, and pass only when it is clearly the better choice to make. With his athleticism that will not be the case most of the time. Finishing at the rim is another story and we have several players who need to work on doing that. (See last night's SA game.) The team should expect that when he gets the ball if he has a good chance of getting by his man and getting to the rim, he should not feel the least self-conscious about doing it. Forget the tag that he should be a playmaker. He's not the point guard or a point forward, ala McGrady style. He might become that, but first, just let him attack the basket if at all possible when he gets the ball. It will also open up outside shots for him. Other players do drive. The ones who don't usually pass and can score are precisely the ones who will keep their defenders a bit on their heels. Aaron Brooks did just that against LA in the playoffs. A player who does this can create havoc in a defense. Aaron just wasn't strong enough to finish at the rim as one would have liked, relying to much on "floaters" like Alston did. I think T-Will is strong enough to do a better job of finishing at the rim. I would try to change his TEAM and PASS FIRST mentality if I was his coach. Once he establishes a more aggressive, ME game, the flow of the whole game will change for him. Passing will begin to happen when it really makes for a better play, not just because it seems to fit TEAM play better. And besides, passing doesn't become effective until you've really established yourself as a scoring threat. This is a fine line. It won't happen over night. But I think this sort of tweak is what will get his game more defined for both him and the TEAM. And both "will" be better for it... oh, and be sure to work on free throws, as you'll likely get more of them. Just a couple of coins.
oh, and Batman Jones...don't make me rewrite my last post in terms of a cast of actors and how a director must manage them. you started it...and you won't win this argument. but, I must admit....I loved your argument...and I so wanted to bow down to you and accept it. but alas...Chandler Parsons happened.
What are you doing McHale?!?! What's that? The same thing as each pro coach he's played for? Oh, ok. So far, we have seen him get early minutes under every one of those coaches based on potential. Each every time we see those minutes get eaten away at a steady pace until he finds himself benched. The consensus seems to be; he belongs there.
Play Twill...our bench is awful..what will it hurt.change is desperately needed...lee is back but it's still not enough..I want to see a Dragic, Lee, Twill, Morris, Smith..speed lineup...quick & athletic
Williams must be horrible behind the scenes. Sucks to see a guy with his tools not putting it together. Needs to follow Lowry's example and be ready for when he gets another chance. But seems McHale might play Clutch the Bear before another 09er.
im so tired of this Twill bs. He doesnt deserve minutes for some reason or another, doesnt vastly improve offense or defense, doesnt really play a team game, and isnt very intelligent on the court. He's got great talent, I just never see positive results when he is in. He may have a moment here or there, but nothing that merits more time or shows great production.
