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It's time to fire Morey

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by b2bizchina, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. RedStaag

    RedStaag Rookie

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    By the way, I'm all for Morey, i think he has made really good decisions and has been ****ed over by injuries and other variables which were beyond his control. However his decisions have not panned out, and people have been fired for lesser offenses.



    • Finally, i love Thabeet, but i think Morey could have gotten more for Battier. Its weird how we r all quick to call Memphis front management crap, but Memphis has fleeced up couple of times in trades
     
  2. comehere2

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    people continue to defend Morey is amazing. is it some kind of brain-washing? it works pretty well i must say.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    You know, he did succeed in cashing in. Gasol and Nene and Chuck as our bigs? It wasn't his fault that the trade got trashed.

    But he has a lot of work to do now, and these sort of opportunities just don't come along.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    Woot? Markieff was taken before us. We had no choice. And they are not so different after all. Marcus had more upside going.

    Dorsey is a bust, but Deandre Jordan has yet to prove himself that he can do more than blocking shots.

    It is not like those are substantially worse moves.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Look at our team, we are Ooompa looompa sized at the bigs....

    I was watching the Rockets championship against the Knicks, and other than talent - that team had a ton, they had height.

    Morey undervalued height, talked about it when he took Landry and Brooks, and now we still go get average height.

    McHale laughing about the lack of size should be no laughing matter for Morey, he is the one that assembled this mess.

    DD
     
  6. jayhow92

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    Comparing apples to orange eh?

    When Roy went down Aldridge stepped up and played to his potential of the second overall pick. Otherwise, they'd be horrible.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Just comparing NBA franchises with similar injury history - one team continues to do well, the other has faded into lotto land.

    DD
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What confuses me about this though is that you were a big advocate of treating players as "assets" especially during the T-mac debacle.

    I agree Morey is cold and business like. Machine like. Doesn't care about the players. But I am not sure it would have made much difference to have CD back.

    His decisions have been good. Loyalty is lacking but the bigger issue is no T-mac or Yao. I think Adelman/Morey handled T-mac's situation poorly as well. But overall, I just don't think another GM would have had a different result.

    He didn't have much leeway and did the best he could. No miracle worker for sure, but he did ok. And Had t-mac and yao stayed healthy, we would have had our ring.
     
  9. RedStaag

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    lol, nope, its comparable. They lost oden and Roy. Aldridge averages about the same as Scola. The problem is that they collected "better assets" than Morey. And one of their key assets is a kid named Batum that Morey gift wrapped for them
     
  10. JayZ750

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    They haven't won a playoff series in ages. I get it, they're doing better than us, but just barely. 6-2 start notwithstanding (they do have some good wins in there, but they also have games against the 76ers, Kings, Suns and Cavs), they've got better talent.

    But that's partially because they were able to go tank-mode. If anything, they could be doing a LOT better, if they made the right draft choice a few years back. But even with that, they've managed to assemble solid assets otherwise. But it should be noted, they ARE assets. They have done a fair amount of wheeling and dealing. DD, is it okay that they treat their players like assets, too?

    Aldridge doesn't average the same as Scola. Unless by the same you mean more points, rebounds, blocks and a meaningfully higher PER.

    They have done a decent job of filling out talent on the team... but what you'll likely find is that they are in a similar position as the Rockets. Slightly better, and should make the playoffs, but I don't see them getting home court advantage anytime soon. That's what happens when some things end up out of your control.

    To clarify my position, I do NOT give DM a free pass. He's past the point where he should have put something better together. But, I also understand facts and situation.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    You know Lou, I would still treat them like assets, but I guess my biggest issue is Morey's honesty about it on the radio all the time.

    I think he might be better served by talking up his own players a lot more and not talking about how available they are, or calling them assets in public.

    It does not lead to folks believing in him or the organization, right now Morey has not proven anything, other than he can get decent role players.

    DD
     
  12. ThisIsOurCity

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    Firing Morey would set this franchise back 10 years.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Doesn't that depend upon whom they bring in?

    DD
     
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    It was talked about in other threads.....The NBA and the West don't have many teams with 7' footers......and 6'11 is very close
    The teams that I can think of in the West....that use size well

    Lakers
    Memphis
    Clips

    Phoenix, Dallas, Minny have average 7 foot centers........
    Others have 6'10 centers as well

    Size matters but it is not equivalent to being a contender

    OKC, Heat, Bulls- Noah listed as 6'11, Blazers, Spurs don't have 7 footers that are starting
     
  15. RedStaag

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    nad trading Rudy Gay and Nicholas Batum, and signing T-mac to an extension set us back 10 years.

    Furthermore McHale and his patented tanking methods might set us back 3 more years, but the rewards will be bountiful.

    And dumbass can be an NBA gm. ****, you dont even have to do any scouting, just go on Yahoo sports or espn sports. Make alright trades, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
     
  16. rlmjdime

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    Every team has their flaws. Let's not forget that Portland drafted Oden over Durant. Could you imagine where that franchise would be if they could have that back?
     
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    Gay was a Dawson move regardless if it was what Morey wanted or not.
     
  18. flamingdts

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    Lowry is not "a decent role player". Scola is not "a decent role player". Pau Gasol is not "a decent role player".
     
  19. larsv8

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    Love the Portland comparisons, I mean it really really makes me chuckle.

    Here is a city that has tons of money locked into a team whose current core will never be able to win a ring. Thats right, I said it, the LMA/Crash Blazers will never win a ring. Thats what you want? A good, not great team?

    They also picked Greg Oden over Kevin Durant. And we have to hear about passing on Rudy Gay everyday. They passed on Kevin freaking Durant.

    Not to mention bringing Roy back for a playoff run days after microfracture surgery. Hey that little management move only cost a franchise player his career.

    Yea, man o man, I wish we had Blazers management.

    What a joke.
     
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  20. RedStaag

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    Lowry is a decent role player, a career backup who is having a breakout season, but he aint no lebron

    Scola is a decent role player

    Pau Gasol is option number 3 on his team, which equates to decent role plyer
     

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