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[CAREER ADVICE] Am I right for wanting to apply for this job?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Cohete Rojo, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

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    Clutchfans, give me your input.

    I have been working for my current company for less than 3 months. We provide oilfield services here in Texas. Our biggest contract is with a large company. I was on that company's website and noticed an open position that I would like to apply for because it is my ideal job - more responsibility, more pay and it would give me a greater sense of self-accomplishment.

    On paper I am a tad-bit underqualified for the position, however, I have worked with some of their personnel and have a good understanding of what is demanded of the position. I also know the direction the company plans on taking for the project I would be working on.

    I am preparing a cover letter straight from the heart, but I am certain my application will be thrown in the trash as my resume lacks one certain "eyeball" qualifications.

    Is it right for me to want to ditch my current company - who has put their faith, time and money in training me at my current position - so that I can work for this company they contract with? The job would put me in direct contact with my current co-workers and supervisors.
     
  2. RedRedemption

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    Business is business man.
    I know it feels a little awkward, and it seems like you are ditching them. But chances are they've seen stuff like this happen before and won't blame you. Kudos to you for taking initiative and advancing your career!
     
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  3. iconoclastic

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    A job is a job. No need for loyalty. However, applying for a job that you don't think you'll get seems a bit strange.
     
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  4. gah

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    If you're not getting into trouble then go for it, if you get it then it was worth it, if not at least you tried.
     
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  5. ROXTXIA

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    Be careful.

    I wanted to apply for a job opening with a client but didn't know if I should. I never did. But it got through the grapevine that I had applied there. Wish I had.

    Whatever you do, don't trust anyone with the information. If someone at your current company saved your life and is the godfather/mother of your child and all you hold sacred, don't....say....s**t to them. I was fired and barely begged my paranoid-a$$ boss to keep me, not because I loved working there, but because I needed the work.

    I learned the hard way.

    So....if you go for it, make sure there's no blowback.
     
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  6. Big MAK

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    Your employeer will drop your ass the instant they need to. They have no loyalty to you, unless it's a mom and pop business. Do what's best for you. Even if you're under qualified, apply anyway. You may not get a call back, but it will never hurt to try.

    If the job's better and you'll get paid more, no one should hold it against you. If they do, they're just jealous pissants and not worth worrying about their feelings.
     
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  7. Big MAK

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    oh... Any applying for a job doesn't mean that you actually want the job and/or to leave your current position. It just means you're interested in the opportunity and curious about the specifics. Think of it as you interviewing them, not them interviewing you.
     
  8. rimrocker

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    No loyalties, especially in this economy. Just try not to burn bridges unnecessarily.
     
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  9. rocketfan83

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    Go for it just proceed with caution.

    It's just business..
     
  10. Johndoe804

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    I'd go ahead and apply, but I wouldn't apply through conventional means. I'd just let them know you noticed the open position next time you deal with them and pass them along your resume. They'll be more inclined to hire you if you do this.
     
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  11. Rashmon

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    Just apply and see how it goes...
     
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  12. DaDakota

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    Apply if you like, don't worry about it.

    DD
     
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  13. bnb

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    assess the risk of your current employer finding out you applied if that matters to you. If they're working the same deals, together, the hiring side there, and your current guys may know each other and may talk. Just a caution.

    But go for it if it's what you want. Address your shortcomings in your cover. If you can swing it like Johndoe suggested go that route.
     
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  14. The Boz

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    I was in the same situation last April. I was with employer for two years. Small family run business servicing refineries and chemical plants. I asked owner how he felt about me applying to our number one customer. He said he respected me for asking and would not hold me back. He even gave put in a good word to the manager that interviewed me. I didn't get the job. Someone more qualified did.
     
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  15. Space Ghost

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    You should really think about the situation again. This is not just a matter of you jumping ship for a better opportunity. You run a good risk against chatter between the two divisions.
    As yourself this; If you lack the qualifications and you're new to your current company, why would the other company even think about risking causing tensions with contract obligations and personnel by hiring you? Unless you have management approval from your company, I would stay away from this situation.
     
  16. Aceshigh7

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    Breaking up with your girlfriend is easier and happier for both of you if you can manage to hook her up with some other guy at the same time.

    Therefore, apply for this new job, and try to get me in to your old one :)
     
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  17. Dairy Ashford

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    Check your company's policies and if you don't see any issues, go ahead and apply. I kind of regret switching to the job I have now, but it's in the biggest city in my industry and it only came about after 3 years worth of resumes, phone screens and interviews; while I watched co-workers with a third as much experience and third-tier MBAs get ops management jobs that required engineering degrees in the job description.

    If you don't go for something you want, it almost always goes to a colleague with less education and experience who had just a big enough ego to see themselves above you.
     
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  18. Cohete Rojo

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    Thank you everyone for your input. Considering my position with my company, my experience and the time of the available position I am going to apply for this job. My biggest reason to apply is to hopefully hear back from the company so I may speak with one of the recruiters or management staff about what it takes to get the job. I know they have their qualifications they list on their website but that may not be everything.

    This way I will be able to gage what it takes to get the position I am applying for. Is industry experience what I need to get the job, or do I need a graduate degree or maybe there are other jobs out there I am qualified for that I may need experience? I think that is my biggest concern: what do I need to do so I can get the job and be a team player. Patiene is a virtue but I feel the timing is right so that I can "interview them".
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    learn how to spell :grin:
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    3 months and no previous domain/industry experience? I'd follow space ghosts advice.

    Your best course is to put your best foot for your client. Make yourself known to anybody and everybody there. If you don't have a mentor there, get one. Also get one from your company.

    When your company's contract with the client is about to roll of, if the client *loves* you, they will make a spot for you.

    Jumping ship now implies that you're looking for the raise, ie. motivated by career over loyalty. Business or not, hr HATES those types. You aren't a rockstar. The client already has the resume/bio your company sent to them. They will know more about you than any other prospective hire.

    Those are the realistic odds stacked against you. Should you take it, make sure you have champions within the client's company.

    disclosure: I'm an IT contractor.
     
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