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Post-Game Analysis: Thunder 109, Rockets 94

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 6, 2012.

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  1. gah

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    I have a question about Flynn for those who took a good look at him in his rookie season. How many steps has he lost with that injury? I mean the guy looks like an old men out there, he looks like he has been pounding his body for 10 years in the league. There's no explosion, no special ability there either, I feel sorry for him but he is not bringing anything to the table.
     
  2. durvasa

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    I keep counting the number of players the Rockets have, and I find its the same number as most every other team in the league. And the Rockets games are 48 minutes long like everyone else, so I'm not getting your point.

    Can you clarify what you mean by too many players and not enough time?
     
  3. RV6

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    Gotta agree with DD..... depth may work in football or baseball, but in basketball one really good player has a huge impact in the game because they can literally have a hand in every play and on both ends...

    I didn't like the gasol trade initially, but that's what we needed. It's time to trade in players for a PLAYER.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Sure, we have too many players that need playing time to develop, or to showcase, and not enough minutes, too many players that look at the guy they are playing behind and get frustrated because their skills are so close to them and can't understand why they got picked instead of them.

    We have about 13 NBA ready rotational players - not star players, but guys that could be playing in a lot of rotations, but because we have so many they rust on the bench not getting better, not building value, not playing.

    Just look at our roster.

    PG - Lowry, Dragic, Flynn

    Clearly Lowry is the best, but Dragic and Flynn both have an argument for minutes based upon what they have done in the NBA, yet there is not enough PT to go around.

    SG - Kmart, CLee, TWill, - Another logjam, if you are going to find out what TWill can do, shouldn't he be playing?

    SF - CBud, TWill, Parsons, Morris - Uh, same thing, CBud is hardly that much better than any of the others......but he is a little better than them so they rust on the bench? Not very efficient.

    PF - Scola, PPat, JHIll, Adrien - I know JHill starts at center but he is NOT a center, and PPat needs time to develop as does JHill, Adrien is a babysitter for Thabeet.

    C - Dalembert, Thabeet - While Thabeet looks like a gangly stork, he needs PT to get better, and Dalembert is horrible, I mean he adds nothing to this team, signing him was treading water, and wasting cash.

    We have too many players that are too close in ability and thus probably all think they should be playing, but not enough minutes to go around.

    It is a chemistry disaster, IMO.

    DD
     
  5. soupman

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    Allow me to be succinct: you cannot play an inside-out offense without an inside game.
     
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    congrats on turning Kmart into steve Novak, Mctalky. I miss that Offense where everyone is cutting to the basket.
    So who is the best player we can draft with a top five pick?
    I did watch the whole game just to hear bullard's experience in a haunted hotel. I find that stuff fascinating.
     
  7. J.R.

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    edit.
     
    #87 J.R., Jan 6, 2012
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    LOL yes...just look at this

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/yhd4jW_FOvQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/54tzdRU1OEc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    he had so much hang time...he got so much air on his jumpshot, he was a completely different player
     
  9. iconoclastic

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    He thinks Thabeet deserve starters' minutes lol.
     
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    Something is wrong with Scola, and I don't think it's simply the coaching change. I noticed late in the game that he was rubbing his left knee, moving it around, and he gave me the impression that it's bothering him. That would explain what's been troubling me, which is his rather dramatic drop in mobility as shown by the lack of the Scola in the post that we're used to. The up and unders, the nifty moves around the basket to get the score against longer, more athletic players. The dramatic drop in his rebounding numbers. He's averaging under 5 per game while playing 30 minutes. That's not the Luis Scola I know. Don't be surprised if we hear something about his knee pretty soon. The change in his play is too obvious to ignore. And to be clear, I don't think there is a bigger fan of Luis on the board than the cat typing this post.

    I'm very worried.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    This is a great post and I noticed it too, he looks significantly slower on the block less spin moves, less quickness in his moves, settling for jumpers.

    But I am not sure if it is him, or the lack of offense, I mean we don't run the ball through him any more, it is almost all through Lowry.

    You may be right about Luis Deckard, something to watch, but hard to figure due to the lack of cohesive offense, and a system that gets everyone touches.

    DD
     
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    I saw that too. I hope it's not from the extended minutes and facing off centers.

    If he's hurt, he needs to sit. Playing through injuries is rubbish. What could be one week off turns into season ending surgery.
     
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    This is why I haven't said anything before, although I certainly noticed it. I thought it was the coaching change, and the way McHell has mixed things up, especially on offense. I expected to essentially keep Adelman's offense, at least for this season, and I think the players expected it as well, but what I've seen so far has simply been a mess. So I was thinking that was the problem. While I still think it's a big problem for the team, I don't think it's all that is wrong with Scola.
     
  14. A_3PO

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    McHale better get these guys playing harder or he should be one-and-done. More than anything else, I'm disappointed with the effort level. I can't watch a team that isn't trying hard. The 2nd half tonight was way too casual and felt like a preseason game.

    I hated the McHale hire but decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. Right now, I'm ticked off at Morey for bringing him here.
     
  15. redhotrox

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    At least we still have our amnesty...

    :(:(:(
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Me too, but I think the trade caused 2 of his starters to simply worry about getting their own....and professional as Luis is....I still think he is not worrying about the Rox anymore and is just playing ball and Kmart ...PFFFT...he doesn't care either.

    Top that off with guys on the bench probably wondering why they aren't playing more or starting and you get McHale in a bind...and no one giving a crap or listening.

    DD
     
  17. A_3PO

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    Very good points.
     
  18. DUHK

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    You know, I'm not gonna speak too soon because we didn't have an off season and training camp. But this team looks (for lack of a better word) pathetic. I watch the games and I don't see much about the team to hang our hats on. The mood of this season is hopeless for me. Unless it is to hope for a high draft pick. This season feels hopeless to me because I just don't see team chemistry like I did last season. If it wasn't for Kyle Lowry, this team could just fall apart.

    Yes, Rick Adelman had his faults. The defense wasn't good, but there was something to hang our hates on: The offense. It was just beautiful to watch. Could you blame us for having bad defense last year when we had Chuck Hayes playing center? My only complaint with Adelman was him seeming like he didn't want to develop those rookies. I am still holding out hope that Terrance and Hasheem will develop into something special, but I can begin to see a little of why RA gave up on those guys. I still hope he is still wrong about those guys though.

    I don't have any expectations when I watch this season anymore, but that's okay. The losts don't feel as bad when you don't have much emotional investment. So let's all not kill ourselves yet and just ride along with these guys. If McHale can play the young guys and get them some experience and develop them, great. If it doesn't work out, a higher draft pick will be good as well.

    Cheers! (I guess.. lol)
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I think Morey knew exactly what he was doing by getting rid of Rick, he is tanking with McHale, and when we get some players Finch will take over.

    DD
     
  20. RV6

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    that's the issue for me...at least the rockets of the last few years busted their butts in losing efforts. I don't know if these guys are lost or just not trying. I know Parsons is big on hustle, but he shouldn't stand out that much more out there. If he is, it's because their is a big gap in effort levels.
     

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