I think most reasonable people would trade Lowry for a superstar player, though you would also have to consider what else would have to be thrown in to make it happen. It is unlikely at this point that the Rockets would get a player better than Lowry has played over the last half year without trading both Lowry and some other assets. Unless you are convinced Lowry's value is going to drop to be a fraction of what it is now in the next year, then you shouldn't be in a rush to get rid of him just so you can feel like you are "selling high". Trade him if it makes the team better, but not because there is a risk he might be worth less later; if he makes an all star game he could also be worth more later.
Ding Ding Ding. The Clippers commentators themselves were well aware that we were close to signing Nene if we managed to acquire Gasol, and they acknowledged that our team could have been 4th in the unpredictable West. I think it was almost universally agreed that Nene was coming here if the Gasol trade went through. Imagine the current Lowry, who is averaging an absurd amount of assists, with great finishers like Gasol and Nene.
It will require good fortune. Young players improving to the extent that other teams are willing to trade us their stars or a high draft picks and/or we strike gold with our draft picks. How do you envision us being a contender in 3-4 years by trading away Kyle Lowry for someone who isn't a superstar?
I think you can't take rumors for fact, personally I think it was very likely but unless you heard it straight from the horse's mouth, those were just universally spread speculative rumors.
No kidding, Nene might have been just using us to get a better deal, and the fact that he signed back with Denver would imply the same. Especially since he got more money than we were offering as well. DD
Come on . . . what analysis , breakdown, data on how KL has Peaked ??? Really?? Dude couldn't shoot a jump shot 1st year here - Busted his ASS to develop one . . Did it !! You can't tell me that a guy who works as hard as he does on his game Has Peaked - You need to retract that !! He has improved so damn much year to year - you simply Cannot argue this point. . . . and Dream peaked in 1990 too - Only to develop 20 more spin moves . . KL has not peaked !!
I agree Lowry hasn't peaked. He uses his brain to play the game, which means he is still growing and learning. I remember Adelman said that Lowry would suggest plays and then Adelman would actually use them.
Those three things can be achieved, to a lesser degree, by retaining Lowry and moving others. So, is it worth giving up Lowry for better picks? I just don't see that as a clear path to contender status either. Maybe I'm shortsighted.
It has not....the overall amount of money he received as guaranteed from Denver was more than we offered. DD
I don't think they can. We were offering 4 years max, starting at 15/ year, so about 65 m. Denver offered 5 years 66 million. With max raises, thats starting salary of 11.5m / year Ours was definately more, considering the extra year of salary available.
LOL - what? I recall 4 years at around 15 for $60 total, and that New Jersey had upped theirs to $65 million, but Denver offered $66 million - which is MORE than we or New Jersey offered in guaranteed money.... Right? Myth confirmed !! DD
Now that I look, they are paying him 13/year static. We were clearing room to pay 15/year starting, with the ability to offer raises. Our four year could of been 1 million or so less than his five year deal with Denver. Time value or money, state taxes, the ability to get another contract in that fifth year. The Rockets offer was more money.
You are reaching here Larv8, it's cool though our resident insider said it was between us and the Nuggs, but that Nene's wife really wanted to stay. I never believed he would come here, still don't....but our argument is silly semantics.....as there is no way to win one way or the other. All we can do is realize that he nor Pau is here.....and won't be... DD
Whatever. This is why people get frustrated with you. If he wanted to play in Denver, he would of signed the extension they offered, or re-signed immediately. He was clearly waiting for something to happen. All signs point to that being the would be trade.
Or maybe he was just holding out to get more money from Denver like DD said. You know, leverage? He could very well have taken our $15M/year offer to Denver and asked them to match for the extra 5th year. And I bet they would have done it since he’s their most important player. There’s no telling what Nene’s intentions really were.
Yea, he could of done those things, but the original point still stands: Our offer could of been better than what Denver gave him.
"could have" not "could of" How is this so difficult? Morey will trade anyone if it's best for the team.
Actually, the point is that Denver's offer could have been better than anything Houston was able to give him. Denver paid what the market commanded; that's not to say $13M was the absolute highest they would have gone. Denver was the team dealing from the position of strength here, not us.
