I see you have just decided somehow he is not good enough to be a starter. I find this humorous because the worst players I have ever seen in my life: Derek Fisher, Trevor Ariza, Rafer Alston and Joel Anthony have all been starters on championship or championship contending teams. There is no magical talent level that makes you "good enough" to be a starter. It doesn't exist. Your team is either a contender or it isn't. Replacing Budinger with the best non superstar SF (Iggy imo) maybe makes this team 1 or 2 wins better. And who cares about that? Its meaningless. Seriously a five page thread about whether our SF is starter quality on a .500 team? Who cares. We are killing time until the trade deadline and 2012 free agency.
My list of 3's better then Bud. I left off some players who I would take over Bud like Matt Barnes and Casspi. I have C bid as my 28th best 3. Paul Pierce Carmelo Anthony Andre Iguodala Thaddeus Young Luol Deng Tayshaun Prince Danny Granger Paul George Luc Richard Mbah a Moute Marvin Williams LeBron James Hedo Turkoglu Rashard Lewis Dorell Wright Caron Butler Metta World Peace Shawn Marion Lamar Odom Rudy Gay Trevor Ariza Danilo Gallinari Michael Beasley Derrick Williams Kevin Durant Nicolas Batum Gerald Wallace Wilson Chandler
I like how you missed my point. And the fact that you think replacing Budinger with Iggy ONLY makes this team 1 or 2 wins better. Either you have never seen him play or you're just flat out being a homer I can't tell. Of course it doesn't matter whether Bud is our starter or not, my point is Chase is only starting because he is the best option on this team. He is however, not good enough to start in literally every single other NBA team. And what are you talking about? Trevor Ariza was not the Lakers' starter in the regular season, only in the playoffs. He shot 50% from the floor, 48% from 3, averaged 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 11 points whiles playing as the Lakers' defensive stopper in the playoffs. I'd take those types of stats from my defensive stopper any day of the week. Joel Anthony? He started in a couple of games for Miami Last season and is only starter now because like Bud, he is their best option. My point is, Bud is not good enough to start, he is only starting because we have no better option.
Well your point doesn't make sense. Add Howard in free agency, boom contender, and Budinger is fine. Heck Dwill looks like garbage right now and not like a competent NBA player. Is he good enough to start? I see lineups as an interworking gear-mechanism, so this "he is not good enough to start" just doesn't make sense to me. After the trade deadline, Rockets were playing like .700 ball with him as a starter. How is he not good enough to start? Your statement is just so arbitrary, makes no sense to me.
How does my point not make sense. There are a few NBA players in this league who are only starting because they are the only options available, it doesn't apply to every single NBA player. I would literally take any other starting SF right now over Bud. He is below average on defense, so he is not a defensive stopper. Bud is incredibly inconsistent on the offense, so he is not doing his job on offense as well. And no, Budinger wouldn't be fine even if we had Howard. He would still be the weak link, and teams will always take advantage of weak links. Lakers almost lost to us in the playoffs when Brooks destroyed Fisher, they won because they had the best front court in the NBA, a front court much bigger than our own. There is a reason Lakers have been actively going after PGs, including Chris Paul and Kirk Hinrich when they were on the market. Now, I'd gladly be proven wrong if Bud starts showing more consistency on at least one end of the court. But a below average defender with inconsistent offense, that is a recipe for disaster.
Because it just doesn't. He has been the highest +/- in two of our games and near the top in the other two. Budinger being on the court isn't hurting us. Every player has weaknesses, the coaches just find ways to cover for them.
Chase Budinger is horrible. OK, not horrible maybe. But he should be the seventh man on a good team and the eighth or ninth on a contending one. No way he should be starting. The random 14-point outing does not make up enough for the plentiful 2-for-8 games.
I agree partly however Budinger would look fine if the coach were D'Antoni or Adelman. We are going back to a more defensive coaching style and I guess we need defensive minded players. Kevin and Budinger cannot coexist if we want to go further down the stretch.
Exactly Except Budinger is neither consistent on offense nor defense. Every single other starting SF out there have a role, some are responsible for being a defensive stopper (like Battier) others are needed on the offensive end (Like Melo). Bud is below average on defense (although people do exaggerate how bad his defense is at times, but his defense is still not very good), and he is inconsistent on offense. If a player has weakness on both ends of the court, how is a plausible solution to mask both? We aren't the Lakers, they had Bynum and Gasol to mask for Fisher's short comings, we don't have anything near that caliber. And even still, they were willing to trade away all-star PF in Gasol and 6th man of the year in Odom just to get Chris Paul. Same for us, we are a .500 team. We aren't winning the championship, and if we aren't winning the championship, we want to improve our roster. You're suggesting that Chase Budinger is "fine" as our starting SF, which means you're content with him as our SF. If we aren't landing on a superstar anytime soon, shouldn't we be trying to improve our positions instead? You have a case that Chase Budinger is fine if we somehow gutted our roster to acquire Dwight Howard, because we probably don't have the pieces to get better SFs than Chase Budinger. But since that is not the case, being content with Chase Budinger as our SF is not the way to go to improving your team. And +/- is the most misleading stat. By itself it means absolutely nothing. You should know that.
I don't know what many of you are talking about. I've rewatched the games this weekend and he has not done ANYTHING to make me cringe or wish we had another player at his postition. This board is seriously taking the fun out of being a fan.....
same thing that happen to him in Arizona. He has no heart for this game. He has the tools but he has no drive.
Yes he does or he would not be in the NBA, he is just not the type to run around screaming about it, we heard the same thing about Yao Ming too, not a competitor etc..... Chase may not be a Lowry level competitor but he is better than some folks on this board think he is, and apparently our coaching staff thinks so too. DD
