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Why I think video games of today ruined animation movies...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by VanityHalfBlack, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. VanityHalfBlack

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    I just saw the new TinTin movie directed by Spielberg and although some of the best 3D animation you'll ever see, I just didn't feel it as a real throwback animation movie... Video games nowadays are far too advanced in storytelling/graphics and enhanced entertainment and when you put that in a movie and try to capture the same look, it just doesn't work at all... Dreamworks/Pixar all feel like video games and it completely shuts me off... I've never read any of the TinTin books or seen the animated series but the story seems soulless and lacking of any character development, was it meshed up from different novels??? Who wrote the screenplay??
    I wish this movie was captured old school style of animation you know drawn like the good old days of Disney/Miyazaki...
    The animation in TinTin was so well crafted that they look like real people, why not shoot the movie in real live action???

    I would have preferred this style of animation...
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    Over this...

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  2. sealclubber1016

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    I agree, it was better than the polar express animation, but i still hate it. They have a term for it, the uncanny valley, if you're gonna go for the realistic approach, just shoot it with real people.

    I hate that style of animation, absolutely hate it. Real or Animated, don't try to do both.

    Video games make it work for some reason though.
     
  3. VanityHalfBlack

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    And this year alone Portal 2 and Uncharted 3 had some of the best storylines I've ever seen, I don't know if animation studios want to compete with that but again the animation movie is geared more towards kids and kids love this type of stuff... I don't know what the box office draw for the new TinTin movie but 3D animation make a sh!tload of money though...
     
  4. lean

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    imo Pixar is amazing when it comes to animation. I wouldn't even compare them to video game graphics (and i'm a much bigger fan of games than pixar movies.) To each his own...
     
  5. lean

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    Deus Ex: Human Revolution also had an awesome story.
     
  6. VanityHalfBlack

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    True, still need to finish it.. Right now consuming my time with Rayman Origins...
     
  7. br0ken_shad0w

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    It's more like mocap should go away. Rango already proved that:
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    Such a beautiful film, hope ILM keeps making more CGI movies.
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  8. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Don't know what you're talking about dude. As a computer animator and growing up with Tintin it is by far the best transfer from comic strip to live action computer animation. It is to me almost a perfection from the character creation to their movements staying true to the world of Herge as he sees them. If you're going to stay true to a cartoon the best way to approach it is to go with this technology. It will get perfected in a couple of years. I wished more movies will approach this route in years to come. Movies that need to go this route would be something like Thundercats, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and and I would love to see a Frank Frazetta style Conan The Barbarian going this route. Prosthetic makeup have their limit.
     
  9. cheke64

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    I prefer my mario bros 2d not 3d
     
  10. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I was surprised to hear Disney doesn't even make big budget cartoon movies anymore. Straight Pixar shop now.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I loved Tin Tin and think they should win animation of the year, it is beautiful.

    As for Disney, they merged with Pixar and Pixar took over the board, cell based traditional animation is pretty much dead.

    DD
     
  12. JunkyardDwg

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    I can agree that while I enjoyed Tintin, it did feel a little soulless. But I don't think it was because of the animation (leagues better than Polar Express). There wasn't much depth to Tintin himself...he was singularly driven the whole film.

    I think at one time, when computer animation first started taking over, I felt like you. But now that the medium has moved beyond it's superficiality, it has really found it's groove. Pixar of course is the gold standard outside of Cars. You absolutely could not achieve what they did in Finding Nemo and WallE with cell animation. Other studios have caught up though. Wanna see some amazing water effects in a very underrated (imo) movie, check our Surf's Up. Rango, Incredibles, Cloudy w/ Meatballs, Toy Story, Kung Fu Panda, Train Your Dragon (I hear is good), Tangled....man the list goes on and on.


    That said I saw Lion King for only the second time the other day and it still is probably among the best animated movies of all time.
     
  13. mylilpony

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    translation: Popeye was bad ass.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    I was going to make a thread about this

    Question: In 15 yrs, will you be able to tell the animation from the real humans?

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    The appeal of totally controlable actors. The ability to micromanage every nuance. The ability to make movies with them FOREVER!

    Digitized Clint from 1970s playing in a remake of MAN ON FIRE set in 2020!?

    My question I guess is . .. . are actors being edged out?

    Rocket River
     
  15. cod

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    Princess and the frog a few years ago
    Wnnie the pooh this year
    and the Snow Queen after their next release
     
  16. juicystream

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    Yes they do

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    The problem is they aren't nearly as successful.
     
  17. Yonkers

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    Still need them for the voice acting. Actors love it because they get paid the same and don't even have to do all the physical work.
     
  18. across110thstreet

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    The Fantastic Mr. Fox had already proved your notion wrong...

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    and they used live action as well as animation before Rango did

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  19. Supermac34

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    I think the problem is they have completely given up on painted cell animation. Everything is computer generated now. I may be incorrect, buy I believe Lilo and Stitch was the last non computer animated movie Disney every released.
     
  20. Hammer755

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    2 of the last 3 movies that Disney's main animation studio has released have not been computer-animated - Winnie the Pooh in 2011 and The Princess and the Frog in 2009.
     

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