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Cam Newton On Pace to be Greatest Football Player Eva

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by pgabriel, Oct 26, 2011.

  1. DonnyMost

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    If I had to bet on who the top 3 fantasy QBs would be next season, Tom Brady wouldn't be among them.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    Why? And looking at Cam's last 7 games, why do you think he will be so much better next season. You guys must have drastically different point system from me.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    Chicken thigh.
     
  4. dharocks

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    By standard scoring, Newton was a better fantasy option than Brady THIS season. Are you expecting him to regress next year?
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    Yes I do expect him to decline. Look at the last half of this season.

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  6. moestavern19

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    Why does CaseyH not want to see a black man succeed?
     
  7. dharocks

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    Okay, so Newton's going to be worse next year with a full training camp, mini camps, and a year of NFL experience under his belt. Based on his last seven games.

    Yeah, I disagree, but that's fine.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    What about the last half of the season?

    Yahoo standard fantasy points for Cam Newton:

    First half avg: 24.125

    Second half avg: 23.429


    CaseyH's argument has persuaded me.

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    Unless he's regressing I would put him at the top. Here were the top QB's per game avg in my league.

    A. Rodgers 31.75
    Brees 29.04
    Brady 27.35
    Newton 25.79
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    Those three 1 yard rushing TD's (which just so happened to break the record) during the clowning of the Bucs is unlikely to happen next year.

    But this FF talk has taken a turn for the ridiculous. If you guys want to draft him over Brees, Rodgers and Brady, go ahead.
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    He is black? **** I thought he was an Inuit. I hereby drop all of my previous criticism.



    Mine is
    Brees 48.3
    Rodgers 46.7
    Brady 43.7
     
  12. RoxSqaud

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    Top 4 QBs in the league. In order.
     
  13. david_rocket

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    I dont think you should draft Cam next year ahead of Rodgers and Brees, and maybe not even ahead of Brady.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    and then kurt warner came the next year. if its so easy to break peyton's record how many rookies have come close?

    stafford?
    bradford?


    I really don't k now
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    Could you put your thoughts into complete sentences that encompass an entire statement? I might be able to understand what you are saying and then respond. Thanks.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Maybe a little off-topic but...

    [rQUOTEr]Because Cam Newton has set the NFL on fire this season, it seems silly to think back to when scouts and experts wouldn't go near the Panthers rookie quarterback's bandwagon. Blaine Gabbert more worthy of the No. 1 overall pick? That's downright laughable now.

    Some of Newton's critics were so harsh that his mentor, Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon, believed their reviews were racially charged. But Newton wouldn't play up the race card in an interview for next month's issue of ESPN The Magazine, instead pointing to people's bias because of past failed high-pick QBs -- although there is a catch to what he says.

    "I can't sit up here and look at it like, 'Oh man, my critics are racist,' " Newton said. "I blame JaMarcus Russell and to some degree Vince Young. If you have the opportunity to make that kind of money doing something you love to do, why would you screw it up? I'm trying to be a trailblazer. If Baylor's Robert Griffin decides to come out, I want people to say 'He can be the next Cam Newton' instead of 'He's going to be the next JaMarcus Russell.' "

    Now, about the catch, Newton specifically blames two black quarterbacks for his being disrespected, so maybe the criticism was racial but no so much racist (there is a difference)?

    Anyhow, Newton had much more to say about his critics, specifically how he was in disbelief when, all of a sudden, they wanted to do interviews after he became the first player in NFL history to open his career with back-to-back 400-yard passing games.

    "I had people who can't throw a football telling me my mechanics were wrong," Newton said. "I had people taking shots at my character, classifying me as a thug, as a hoodlum. After Week 3 or 4, all these same people wanted an interview. I said, 'You were giving me all this crap and had so much to say about how I was going to play, and now you want to talk? No. Just sit back and watch the show, man.' "

    It's been pretty impressive, too. Newton already has eclipsed Peyton Manning in passing yards for a rookie-record 3,893, while scoring 34 total touchdowns (20 passing, 14 rushing). Eagles quarterback Michael Vick recently said Newton will revolutionize the game, and that's exactly what Newton wants.

    "Gone are the days of the drop-back quarterback who can only throw the ball," Newton said. "You know the new iPhone? It's faster, more powerful and smarter. It's revolutionary. Why can't the quarterback be like that? Why can't you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who's unstoppable?"[/rQUOTEr]

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...marcus-vy-to-blame?module=HP11_headline_stack
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    Cam Newton, iQuarterback.
     
  18. Icehouse

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    How is it unlikely? Isn't he in the top 5 for rushing TD's or something like that?
     
  19. Icehouse

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    It depends on the scoring. If it's a league where QB's get 6 pts per TD then I can possibly see those 3 ahead of him. But even then, if the QB get's extra points for rushing yards then that helps so much. If it's a league where QB's only get 4 pts per passing TD then you definately go with Cam.
     
  20. JeopardE

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    Regardless of scoring system, the only QB I would consider drafting over Cam next year is Aaron Rodgers. The guy is just silly. Put up nearly 36 points for me in championship week. Cam has only failed to put up more than 20 twice this year -- the cloudburst monsoon game against Jax and one other game in which he scored 19 or so. And this is despite him throwing 3+ picks every other week. Mouth-watering to see how he'll deliver when the game "slows down" for him and he stops throwing interceptions.
     

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