[Video] Terrence Williams - 13 Points Vs Magic (12.26.11)

Just throwing this out there...both morey and mchale have said that not only is twill a good defender but the best wing defender on the team, and Mchale said he is the ability to be the next Elite defender...

Matt Bullard who knows more about basketball than everyone on this board...praised twill defense on 610 and says the entire coaching staff is really praising defensive abilities.

So for now I will take their opinions and my eyes over DD...and his analysis from 1 game and the first game of the season at that.

Ohh and we have all last season to prove buds fundamental ineptness on the defensive end...

 

You can either watch the games for yourself to make an opinion, or borrow someone else's, I guess. It's up to you.

I prefer to make my own analysis.

 

Did you read the breakdown ?

Bud was about a B+ on defense

Terrance was about a D on defense.

DD

 

What breakdown

 

I do think TWill has more natural ability, and right now is trying too hard, which leads to defensive breakdowns.

That and he has a tendency to peak at the ball allowing his man to roam free, he has to tighten up the mental portion of Defense, that is where all of his problems lie.

Look, I would be ok with trading CBud and strating TWill if the org feels that they need to find out about his potential.

Right now though, Bud is a better basketball player on offense and defense because he plays within himself.

DD

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=61008&postcount=1

Joking?

 

On page 5 of this thread, I broke down the differences between TWill and CBud in game 1.

Spoiler

TWILL VS CBUD DEFENSIVE BREAKDOWN FROM LAST NIGHTS GAME:


11:35 in 1Q CBud forces Turkey Glue into a step back 3 - Miss - Good Defense

10:55 in 1Q TurkeyGlue posts up CBud on rt block, CBud plays good D forces bad shot as Turkey Glue falls down - Make - Good Defense

10:27 in 1Q CBud rotates and closes in on Jason Richardson in the corner for a 3pt attempt - Miss - Good Defense.

9:01 in 1Q Turkey Glue at 3pt line, CBud on him - forces horrible alley oop pass because CBud had hand up high - miss - pass off backboard - Good defense.

5:20 CBud substituted out for TWill - So far CBud has played perfect position defense.

-------------------------------------------------------------

4:35 in 1Q - TWill caught watching the ball, his man Turkey Glue sneaks in backside for a free offensive rebound - miss by TG, DH put back - Bad position defense by TWill.

4:18 in 1Q Twill takes Nelson on break, Nelson goes right by him for easy layup at rim - Bad defense.

2:15 in 1Q Twill picked at top allowing Reddick wide open 3pt shot - miss - Good defense by TWill he was picked.

1:35 in 1Q Twill caught peaking at Dhoward Reddick blows by him Twill recovers to contest a 12 footer -miss - Good Defense.

1:05 in 1Q TWill picks up Reddick at 3pt line, Reddick goes by him for the uncontested layup as TWill trails - Terrible defense.

10:09 in 2Q Twill on Richardson as he cuts through the lane watches Davis get a layup when he was right next to him instead of contesting shot - Make - Terrible help defense.

8:34 in 2Q Twill on Jrich, gives him too much room allows him to get to top of key and have a wide open pass to Anderson for a dunk at the rim - got to stay closer to man - poor defense.

8:00 in 2Q Twill guarding TurkeyGlue, gets picked and fails to follow picker to the rim as Howard rolls and gets easy dunk after JHill switched to stop Turkey glue - poor defense.

TWill out at 5:21 and Chase back in - a really poor defensive outing by TWill too much looking around and not enough paying attention to his man or moving his feet, very lazy defense for the most part.

--------------------------------------------------------------

5:07 in 2Q CBud on TGlue - they run same high pick with DHoward to the hole they just ran earlier, CBud sticks with TGlue forces bad bounce pass to Howard - who still manages to score the ball - Good defense.

4:09 in 2Q CBud on TGlue, picks him up at 3pt line, forces TGlue to left hand side, contested shot from 8ft, miss - Great position defense and contest.

38 sec in 2Q Reddick blows by Lowry, Cbud leaves TGlue to cut off lane at basket forces a pass by Reddick - Great help defense

That is the entire first half, there were more plays but they were inconsequention to the play of either on defense.

Suffice it to say that CBud played excellent defense in the first half and Twill played poorly on D in the first half.

On to the 2nd half

---------------------------------------------------------------------

11:34 in 3rd quarter - CBud on Tglue - Anderson picks CBud and TurkeyGlue to the hole for a layup - bad team defense - not much you can do about a pick without Scola's help on that.

10:46 in 3rd quarter, Nelson blows by Lowry and hits a back cutting TGlue for a layup as CBud trails - poor defense by CBud.

8:35 in 3rd quarter, Anderson sets pick for Turkey Glue Cbud recovers and forces pass to DHoward while JHill watches.....- good D by CBud.

7:41 in 3rd quarter, on fast break Cbud checks middle of lane and gives weak help on layup by Richardson - poor help D by CBud.

6:40 in 3rd quarter - CBud picked up top by Howard recovers to force a fallaway 12 footer by Turkey Glue - make - Good position defense, better shot.

5:40 - CBud out - decent defense in 3rd quarter, not as good as first half but in position very well most of the time.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Twill on at about 2:30 in 3rd quarter:

TWill on Von Wafer who stood in corner and watched Magic offense - and Twill stayed on him pretty much - literally neither did any movement on that end.

------------------------------------------------------

4th quarter:

11:00 of 4th Q Twill on TGlue, pnRoll with Big baby, TWill sticks with his man forces TGlue to make pass off of Sammy's foot - Good Defense.

10:15 another screen and roll with BBaby and TGlue - Good defense by Twill recovering to contest the pass.

9:00 4Q - Twill switches to Big baby gets caught watching ball gives up wide open 15 footer to BBaby - miss - Poor defense.

8:25 4q - Twill and CBud in - next bit about both of them.
--------------------------------------------------------

8:15 4q - Cbud on TGlue, forces him to his left to take a fall away 20 footer, make - good defense.

7:29 4q Cbud on TGlue, pnr with DHoward, Cbud recovers, good help D by JHill, and they force a bad shot by Howard CBud rebounds - Good Defense and great team help.

CBud back out 6:30 of 4q.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

4:04 in 4th Q TWill up tight on TGlue, TGlue uses weak screen to get seperation and blows by TWill for an uncontested layup at rim. Poor defense, no need to get so tight 25 ft from basket, over aggressive.

1:30 in 4q TWill watching Howard with ball TGlue slides a little, Howard back out for an uncontested 3pter - Good - poor defensive awareness.

1:07 in 4q TGlue iso on TWill forces left fade away 12 footer - miss - Very good defense.

12 seconds left in game 6 point game, TWill caught looking AGAIN at ball pass to a wide open TGlue for 3pter - make - ball game - Horrendous attention to defense at a crucial stage of the game.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

There ya have it Clutchfans, comparison between CBud and TWill overall Cbud was the MUCH better defender both as a teamate and in one on one situations.

TWill is athletic, but so often is out of position and while Bud is no Shane Battier he was almost ALWAYS in the right spot both in help defense and in one on one D.

It is not comparison, in this game, CBud was a good defender, and TWill was a poor one.

The only conlcusion is that too many people around here fall for the "Big athlete with a big mouth" and overlook the solid performers.

Hopefully the coaching staff is not that stupid.

DD

 

Yikes....I was kidding by being over the top about Langhi quite a bit, but that post is pretty telling.

I was wrong about that guy for sure.

DD

 

I read the breakdown, you are terribly biased.

Seriously, there's no point even arguing with you because your way to stubborn.

I'm book-marking this thread and i'll make sure to bump it in a couple of months, just so you can be wrong once again.

T-Will's D >>> Budinger's D

And I love Bud just as much as I love T-Will. Both have there qualities and weakness', but Bud IS NOT a good defender.

 

Unlike Sam, most of the time I'm just busting your chops. However, sometimes your love for scrubby to mediocre white dudes makes me shake my head.

 

7 pages....it's once again time for the official Twill thread clip:

Hey, Terrence!

<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FsqJFIJ5lLs?version=3&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FsqJFIJ5lLs?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

 

It's natural human behaviour to pull for others that resemble you.

 

Oh for **** sake.....I tell the truth in a breakdown of the actual game and get called biased.

FACTS...just deal in facts...if TWILL played better, I would have said so, but the FACTS are he didn't, at least on defense.

He was much better than CBud on offense.....

Dunderheadedness is what is going on here....

DD

 

You mean like Aaron Brooks, or Von Wafer, or Mike Harris?

As has been repeatedly proven, it is not about skin tone and all about style of play.

I prefer a more team oriented approach over a dribble dribble dribble one on 5 approach.

Nothing more than that.

DD

 

Then I need to find a 5 foot nothing Asian Chuck Hayes wannabe to root for.:grin:

 

Nah, we can both just cheer for the Rockets

DD

 

DD biased?!? Poppycock! :grin:

 

lol that thread is hilarious!

 

This. This board was pretty boring when DD was on hiatus. From the early signs of things to come, this season looks like the Rockets will test our emotions to the limit. So, let's just be a little bit more patient with him and treat some of his outrageous posts as entertainment. Otherwise, fire away DD.

 

So I thought somebody found an article somewhere that actually had a breakdown of the defense between Bud and T-Will, and the article states that Bud is the superior argument.

I looked through this thread several times and didn't find it until I realize it was just DD's opinion...

I trust McHale when he says T-Will has better defense.