[ClutchFans] Samuel Dalembert's Contract: A Brief Analysis

I guess I'm missing something in the CBA somehow. I'm having a hard time understanding why we couldn't trade to Orlando the option to our 2012 lottery pick if we get one or a future first rounder 2 years after our Memphis obligation is fulfilled. In other words the trade language says if we make the playoffs, then Orlando gets our 2014 since Memphis gets our 2012 and if we don't make the playoffs, then Orlando gets our 2012 lottery pick since it is protected from Memphis....and Memphis has access to one of our future picks. What about that sort of pick trade option violates the CBA? We're not trading something we don't have and we aren't trading picks in 2 straight years. What's wrong with it?

 

Thanks for this. You are the #1 reason to keep coming back to CF IMHO.

How does the Rox losing the various "salary cap exceptions, their trade exceptions (possibly even including the $7.35 million trade exception from the Shane Battier trade) and certain former players’ cap holds (such as Yao Ming’s)" ramify? What 'bullets' remain, other than the players and picks, for DM the GM to try and pull a rabbit out of his hat? Again, thanks!

 

If he continues to play like last night, this guy will be a steal

 

I think this was a good signing. Morey used the mark cuban method with the partial contract. The depth at the position made it a good signing. I still contend that they have a cluttered roster filled with alike guys.

Great write up bima

 

Yes, I agree it's Les' directives that Morey is following, I even said the same thing in the What evidence do we have that Morey is doing a good job thread. The gist of what I saying is don't expect drafting in the high lottery as long as Morey is around. I pontificate that if some other GM tried to carry out Les' order, there's a better chance that GM will make a wrong move that will unintentionally send the Rockets to the bottom. Bad for his career, good for us I guess (depending on who we draft).

 

Thanks for the expert write up once again, Bima. Can't say that enough.

Just one thing, though. Shouldn't the very last sentence end with a question mark?

 

Ok. Forgot about the pick being to NJ. ALso thought we had a protected lottery pick from Memphis from the Battier deal.

I still think we could trade our lottery pick in a wink-wink deal negotiated prior but traded on draft day.

 

Ok, answer this.

What team would be willing to give up a lottery pick for Dwight now or on draft day???

 

I feel like the #1 legitimate argument people have against Morey is this. What really is the worth of having cap flexibility? Isn't it all relative to who's going to be in that particular free agent class in which you have the free money? Detroit had a ton of cap space one year, and then the market dictated that Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva would get paid an inflated amount because there frankly was no one better that year. Detroit landed them in an awkward sort of musical chairs manner, like "we don't really have a spot for you, but it just fits because you deserve money and we have it. Take it!" Obviously Morey won't be as dumb as Joe Dumars in giving out big contracts, but the point is that the goal in the NBA is not to have unused money under the cap but rather a collection of contracts that are either worth it or good deals for the franchise.

If Morey keeps swinging and missing at players that are inevitably going to cost us a lot of money, then for that particular year it's just as bad as having a bunch of overpaid guys. I grant you the fact that at least it doesn't put our future in jeopardy, but it does put us in limbo. And right now with the amount of limbo we Rockets fans have had to deal with the past 2+ years, I think we're ready for something different even if that means immediate awfulness in exchange for some, ANY good prospects on the horizon.

Just for reference sake, you mentioned Kevin Martin and Al Jefferson coming off the books in 2013, potentially making us big players in the 2013 free agency class. I only did cursory checking, but it looks like those two players are going to be THE jewels of the 2013 unrestricted free agency class. Maybe a Gerald Wallace, Josh Smith, or Andrew Bynum could get more. Manu is free but also old and bald. (Oh it also looks like Westbrook is free, he'd be #1 then.) All in all though, it's really sad how bad that year could be for free agency. So if that's the case then there really is no point in clearing money for that offseason.

 

Any chance we can buy a higher lottery pick if we end up in the teens again? Money talks, and with this draft being so deep, I'm hoping other teams don't frown upon trading down for the right package of "assets"!

 

Excellent analysis Bima. You should be Morey's PR person.

 

I like how people are saying that Morey has us mired in mediocrity after 1 game.

Anyway, good writeup. Pleasure to read as always.

 

Thanks BimaThug,

One question about the delay. That means we still had Bird Rights to Hayes? You mention a SnT with Hayes as a possibility.

Couldn't the delay have been about seeing if we could just flat out resign Hayes? Was that a possibility, just resigning Hayes with Bird Rights after the Kings revoked his contract?

 

It's impossible to know if someone will be a true superstar or franchise player.

 

Alright, if the Rockets were going to go trade for Dwight, how about trading a first rounder with the following conditions:

1. If a draft pick from New York is conveyed to Houston in 2012, and Houston does not have to convey their pick to New Jersey, Houston conveys their pick to Orlando.

2. If a draft pick from New York is conveyed to Houston in 2012, and Houston must convey their pick to New Jersey, Houston conveys their 2013 draft pick to Orlando.

3. If New York does not convey a draft pick to Houston in 2012, and Houston conveys their pick to New Jersey, Houston conveys their 2013 pick to Orlando if New York conveys their pick to Houston in 2013; otherwise Houston conveys their 2014 pick to Orlando.

I think this covers the Steipen rule, with the caveat that the Rockets would not be able to put protection on their pick. If they got Dwight Howard, however, I would not be afraid to trade a #1 overall pick in 2012, and we've seen that Dwight and a cast of nobodies is still good for 50 wins.

 

Thank you Bima.
This is the whole point. There are still people out there who don't get it.
Morey wants to tank hard. no pun intended