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Billas top 5 prospects from 09. Jordan Hill and Thabeet in top 4.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonFan81, Dec 24, 2011.

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  1. OlajuwonFan81

    OlajuwonFan81 Member

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    Funny how in retrospect this seems way off.

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    #1 OlajuwonFan81, Dec 24, 2011
  2. opticon

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    LOL I think what he said is still spot on. All the things he said about Jordan and Hasheem are true. They both still need to learn the game and need to develop more.

    I think coach Kev is the kind of is the kind of Mentor and leader they then need to be best players they can be.
     
    #2 opticon, Dec 24, 2011
  3. T FOR 3!!!

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    I think he was spot on.... Potential wise, those were probly the 5 best players in the draft..
     
    #3 T FOR 3!!!, Dec 24, 2011
  4. charlieaustin

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    This is why it is so hard to "tank" and expect to get a great player in the draft.
     
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  5. Patience

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    Exactly. Everyone wanting us to tank and suck it up for a year, expecting the next Tim Duncan to fall in our laps should look at the 2009 draft as an example of a more likely outcome.

    Like someone said in another thread, the Clippers had to have years and years and years of high lottery picks before they got lucky with Blake Griffin. Look at the Timberwolves, who have a lottery pick every year, and haven't drafted a superstar since Kevin Garnett in 1996.
     
    #5 Patience, Dec 24, 2011
  6. coachbadlee

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    Exactly my point. Better to roll with the lotto picks that we have. Two of them are showing breakout signs now. The other two are not far behind.
     
    #6 coachbadlee, Dec 24, 2011
  7. bobrek

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    They drafted Ray Allen (then traded him for Marbury). They drafted Brandon Roy (then traded him). They drafted Kevin Love.
     
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  8. Jturbofuel

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    It takes longer for big guys to develop that smaller players. I just see with todays knee jerk reactions to just about anything teams have lost the patience it takes to develop players like they used to.
     
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    What a homer. Shows how much time to actually develop bigs!
     
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  10. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    Think he's STILL RIGHT, two years later...?
     
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  11. Dreamin

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    Ha Ha
     
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  12. Amel

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    you don't draft on potential...

    "let's pick Hasheem because he's the tallest and has huge arms"

    it's not how it works for real GM's
     
    #12 Amel, Dec 26, 2011
  13. coachbadlee

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    To some extent, Yes.
     
    #13 coachbadlee, Dec 26, 2011
  14. OlajuwonFan81

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    He was spot on ? :confused: Give me a break. So if you had to go back to the draft u'd draft Thabeet 2nd and or Hill 4th ?
     
    #14 OlajuwonFan81, Dec 26, 2011
  15. Amel

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    spot on, yes, he was on potential wise...

    however, that's not how good GMs draft...

    these kids go through all kinds of different 'tests', Baketball IQ etc
     
    #15 Amel, Dec 26, 2011
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    Exactly, look at all the success we've gotten getting a star through trades.
     
    #16 CCorn, Dec 26, 2011
  17. Haymitch

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    Funny. Poor Bilas. I guess a hindsight top 5 would be:

    Griffin
    Curry
    Tyreke/Harden/Jennings
    Harden/Jennings/Tyreke
    Jennings/Tyreke/Harden
     
    #17 Haymitch, Dec 26, 2011
  18. krosfyah

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    Are you joking? Through trades we got Francis, tmac, Barkley, pippen and Drexler. We also had Pao before David "conflict of interest" Stern nixed it. That was the last 15 years or so. Would we have done better via draft in that time if we are tanking?
     
    #18 krosfyah, Dec 26, 2011
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    If we have a 1 percent chance of getting a Tim Duncan by tanking that's still better odds for winning a championship by trying to win with what we have which is nada!

    No team had built a contender without a star draft pick or draft day trade for a pick. None. Not Dallas, not Miami, not l.a., not Boston, not Orlando, not anyone. Every finals contender in the past 30 years has a lotto pick as the cornerstone of the franchise.

    So I am curious as to how people can honestly argue that we should try to build a contender by counting on talent that has failed to deliver in the nba. It just doesn't happen folks.
     
    #19 Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 26, 2011
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    Francis was a draft pick for all essential purposes. The rest of those trades were auxiliary to an existing superstar by the name of the dream. They wanted to come here to play with Hakeem.

    We have no one to build around. Trade for what? What star wants to come play with Scola? Martin?

    This argument is a joke
     
    #20 Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 26, 2011
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