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Are the Rockets trying to work a minor trade?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cod, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. Aleron

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    Lin was signed because they only had 1 active point guard at practice (Mchale mentioned this, Lowry mentioned this, TWill mentioned this), and were playing 4v5
     
  2. cod

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    Which doesn't explain the present, ie the only unguaranteed player that hasn't been waived.

    The Kings may be interested in him. The Rockets might be holding onto him to use as a pseudo-2nd round pick in a possible Dalembert S&T.
     
  3. mickey_angelo

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    Unlikely. I'm sure the Kings are aware that the Rockets would need to clear a roster spot before signing Dalembert. No need to waste a 2nd round pick when they could just wait it out. If Morey is working on a minor trade, he's more likely finding a suitor for Flynn.

    Flynn is a former top 5 pick and would probably be claimed off waivers quickly by a PG needy team. It would be smart to try to get a pick instead of just waiving him for nothing, maybe even a late 1st rounder from a win now team in need of a backup pg (Lakers, Heat)
     
  4. cod

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    The Kings wouldn't be the team sending out a second round pick in a Dalembert S&T for the Battier TE.
     
  5. mickey_angelo

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    Oh ok, I get what you're saying. Misread your post
     
  6. Dreamin

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    I hope we get rid of some of the 2009 class. Make it happen Morey.
     
  7. leebigez

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    If it were me, I would just trade scola for capspace. Patterson,hill,and morris can handle the 4 spot and dalembert-thabeet can handle the 5. Lakers got a 1st for odom because he's a better player. If they can get a 1st in say like 2014, it could be like the thorpe trade for the pistons.
     
  8. ROXTXIA

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    That's what she said.
     
  9. cod

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    It appears the Kings would like a playmaking backup PG.

    For the Rockets Patterson is out until after New Years. Are they trying to swing for an experienced PF in the meantime?

    The Kings picked up Travis Outlaw off waivers and he has a large multi-year contract. He's similiar to Donte Green in that he's a jump shooting forward and they both play SF & PF.

    There are 3 players ahead of Greene in both forward positions. He's also an expiring contract. Teams do move players in Greene's situation as a favor to them or to avoid locker room issues.


    Fredette / Thomas
    Evans / Thornton / Garcia
    Salmons / Outlaw / (Garcia) / Honeycutt
    Hayes / Hickson / (Thompson) / Greene
    Cousins / Thompson / Whiteside

    A S&T for a TE doesn't benefit the Kings as they are under the salary cap.

    Flynn makes sense if Greene is traded (seperately) along with Dalembert (S&T). They're both former first round picks and the option for another year gives them some roster stability.
     
  10. xiki

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    Isn't the League office closed nuil Monday AM and therefore SD's deal cannot be official (after all, the commish must bless, bless his heart).
     
  11. cod

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    No idea, but the Grizzlies and Hornets announced their deal yesterday. As did the Kings with their signing of Chuck Hayes.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    Sammy hasn't signed. It's about time.
     
  13. xiki

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    If the signing is not official does that mean Rox are still trying to work out an SnT arrangement?
     
  14. jopatmc

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    That's what I suspect it means. S&T using Shane's TPE. Perhaps we're sending out a player or two.
     
  15. xiki

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    So, to rephrase: has SD actually signed? Is there room to work an SnT? If so, would that not commit Rox to longer term with SD? Oh, new CBA, holidays and week-ends with the new NBA (and old commish). :rolleyes:
     
  16. BimaThug

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    This, to me, is the key sticking point, although the other way around.

    All contracts signed in a S&T must be at least three years, although only the first year must be guaranteed. The Rockets would only do a S&T for Dalembert if he agreed to tack on a third non-guaranteed year. Obviously, that is not a very palatable scenario for Dalembert, who knows the Rockets have the cap room to just give him the agreed-upon two-year deal.

    So, even if the Kings wanted to do a S&T with the Rockets, nothing could happen unless Dalembert agreed to a third non-guaranteed year on his deal.

    EDIT: FYI, had all parties been on board with it, the perfect S&T scenario for Houston would have had the Rockets signing and trading Chuck Hayes (along with Marqus Blakely and Marcus Cousins) for Dalembert. This would have preserved all cap exceptions, including the Battier TPE.
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    Feigen report, I think, says contract not a holdup. So my guess is the team and Sam have numbers worked out for either regular signing or S&T. Probably some partial guarantee for yr 3 to compensate Sam for agreeing to it.

    Something is up, though. Otherwise, would be best to get Sam in practice and just waive the guy without a guaranteed contract and get on with life.
     
  18. xiki

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    This is curious. Yellow.
     
  19. BimaThug

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    I think Feigen's report was that the (TWO-year) deal was already agreed upon and that, therefore, "the deal" was not going to fall apart. For instance, neither side was going to back away if no S&T deal could be arranged.

    I also think that the Rockets would rather just renounce their cap exceptions and sign Dalembert outright than do anything in a S&T that would jeopardize their cap flexibility beyond this season. Any sort of partial guarantee in Year 3 of a Dalembert deal likely means substantially more guaranteed in Year 2. The Rockets would probably just opt for the two-year deal, if that was the case.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    They have to be trying to jettison one guaranteed spot to free up room for Lin.

    DD
     

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