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Ron Paul at 52% in Iowa

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ToyCen428, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. MiddleMan

    MiddleMan Member

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    Are the republicans and democrats really that different??
     
  2. Raven

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    On social issues, yes, but both parties serve the interest of the one percent.
     
  3. CCorn

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    They both do a terrible job, your job as a voter is to decide who you think will **** everything up less.
     
  4. Kojirou

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    Of course! There's no way that such an individualist would ever characterize all blacks as fleet-footed! And he would never ever say that black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers! If he tried to say that, then the ghost of Ayn Rand would prevent him from saying those evil words!
     
  5. MiddleMan

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    Excellent answers Raven and CCorn.
     
  6. across110thstreet

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    see below

     
  7. CCorn

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    Yea people should fear my political ideals because I'm a Ron Paul supporter. The idea that I want to vote for someone who doesn't flip flop his ideals for popularity. The crazy idea that I want an executive that doesn't try to legislate as the president. The insane idea that I want a conservative to actually shrink federal power instead of claim he will then expand it even further which every Republican has done since the "oh so great" Ronald Regan.

    But I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion.
     
  8. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    If rates of arrest or incarceration for those crimes are anywhere close to rates of perpetration, then that is a factual statement. That doesn't mean that they commit more of those crimes because they are black, only that they are significantly overrepresented for some reason. Facts are not racist.
     
  9. mc mark

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    but they sure are librul

    ;)
     
  10. Hightop

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    The commentator on this video sets everybody straight.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xjeFjiLppsI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    "I like what Martin Luther King, Jr., did to eliminate state-enforced segregation; the use of the boycott is a great tool to promote peaceful change, and King spoke out brilliantly against the unconstitutional and pointless slaughter of the Vietnam War."
    RON PAUL

    "At the time, Ali’s resistance to war and the military draft was seen by a majority of Americans to be “unpatriotic.” But they did not understand that patriotism is the act of standing up to the government when the government is wrong, and at great risk stand firmly on principles that protect the freedoms of all people. Those who resist the state nonviolently, based on their own principles, deserve our support."
    RON PAUL

    "Do we own our bodies and ourselves? We do, and it is based on this belief that we, as a country and society, reject slavery. We are not shy about saying it: Slavery is immoral."
    RON PAUL

    "Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart, and we can't change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations."
    RON PAUL
     
  11. A_3PO

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    Oh brother. If feigning persecution makes you feel better, keep it up. Like nearly everyone else, I have no fear of your ideals and couldn't care less what your opinion is.
     
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  12. thadeus

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    lol

    Look at how much suffering you have to go through!

    P.S. Ron Paul's ideas would destroy this country. Just because you understand how a 'free market' works doesn't mean the world will ever work the way the 'free market' works in your head.
     
  13. CCorn

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    I'm not saying I'm suffering I just find it's annoying when people try and bash on me because of what I believe in. I don't attack people in Basso's threads, I usually have Obama supporters backs because I find some of the attacks on him idiotic. And to say he would ruin the country is showing little faith in the branch of the government that should have the most power, congress.
     
  14. Kojirou

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    Well, given how Congress has been behaving the last eighteen months or so....................

    Not to mention, what does it even mean when you say you want a president who doesn't try to legislate? The President is naturally the head of his political party, of course he's going to try to have the part doing things he wants, such as passing Obamacare. I don't recall Obama shoving Obamacare exactly as he wanted it through Congress without significant opposition.

    And as I observed, Paul wants to basically wreck the Supreme Court as well. Letting the states and Congress have all the power? Going back to 1850, I guess.
     
  15. Johndoe804

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    Kojirou must think that the President is an infallible leader of the people. "Letting the states and Congress have all the power?" Crazy!!!! The parties don't represent me. I'm not voting for a party to run things. I vote for the individual who best represents my political views. A democratic dictatorship is still a dictatorship.
     
  16. Raven

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    For the record, I find Ron Paul to be both inspiring and terrifying, and my reaction to him depends entirely on which subject he is discussing.
     
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  17. Kojirou

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    No, I deal with reality, and reality states that factions exists, and that the guy running the country is going to be the head of one faction or the other. Which means that well, the President is not just going to sit there and sign or veto anything Congress passes, but will work for his faction. Quit acting like politics as you learned it in 6th grade really works like that.

    Unless you're talking about mob rule, which I don't think you are given that you want the President to going back to being Congress's b**** like he was between Jackson and Lincoln, a democratic dictatorship is a basic oxymoron. If it's a dictatorship, then by definition, it isn't democratic.
     
  18. CCorn

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    Thanks Korijrou that was a thoughtful response. And yes the pass nothing congresses are awful and I think the best situation a government can be in is an opposition party with majority in congress that is willing to come to terms with the president, something the Republicans are refusing to do.

    And although I have no idea how he plans to wreck the supreme court, I find it a waste of time because the Court has very little power any ways.

    You schooled me in my other point ;).
     
  19. thadeus

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    Whoa ... you really believe this?
     
  20. CCorn

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    Unlike Congress and the President the Supreme Court has little power to have anybody follow what they decide. See Guantanamo Bay cases, Indian Rights cases in Georgia and Brown v Board of Education off the top of my head. If the Supreme Court does not have the public or executives support their decisions have no weight.
     

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