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NFL: Dumb Rules

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Rocket River, Dec 19, 2011.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    I was watching a replay of the Steeler's game

    Why exactly is it illegal to run and jump to block a kick?

    The Steelers quick forced the 49ers to have to settle for a field goal, but thanks to a leaping penalty on linebacker Lawrence Timmons,


    What the hell is a LEAPING PENALTY?

    Rocket River
     
  2. sammy

    sammy Member

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    I'm pretty sure that you're allowed to jump to block a kick. However, you can't use another player to help yourself leap off the ground.
     
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  3. macalu

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    it's not the "dumb" rules that irk me. it's the dumb refs who can't make the obvious call even AFTER seeing the replay. TJ Yates gets hit in the arm but the ball travels ten yards FORWARD. FUMBLE! Arian Foster has control of the ball for half a second, didn't make a football move which indicates no catch. FUMBLE! really, WTF?
     
  4. Kam

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    injuries.

    at least on that leaping rule. i believe the rule states you can leap vertically, but can't use your line to propel you higher.
     
  5. RocketManJosh

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    No, the rule that was broken was that you can not leap to block the kick unless you started within a yard of the line of scrimmage. The Pittsburgh player started running from several yards behind the line of scrimmage and then leaped up resulting in the penalty.

    It looked silly yesterday because his leap was straight up and down and had literally no effect on the play, but it was still illegal because of where he started. My guess is that if you did not have this rule, some teams with the right guy could have players get a running start and leap entirely over the lines blocking the kick every time they got the timing right which would drastically alter the game of football. To me, its the same reason that offensive players cannot be moving towards the line of scrimmage at the snap, as that would also completely alter the way football is played (negatively according to the NFL).
     
  6. Cannonball

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    That penalty was notably called a Monday night game between the Colts and Buccaneers in 2003. Colts were behind 21 with 5 minutes left and came back to send it to OT. In OT, Vanderjagt missed a FG but they called a leaping penalty. Vanderjagt makes his next attempt (barely) and Colts win the game.

    <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Yr2sDXvNfuw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Skip to 2:23 for the leaping.

    This on ESPN the other day. Not this specific clip but something similar. I wonder if the ref was watching and when it happened in the game he went "ah, yes, leaping."
     
  7. Cannonball

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    And you have to touch a player on the way down. If you just jump but don't make contact with anybody, it's not a penalty.

    Here's the rule out of the NFL rulebook:

    Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1, r
    [rquoter]Clearly running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal, or Try-kick after
    touchdown and landing on players, unless the leaping player was originally lined up within one yard of
    the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped.[/rquoter]

    The rule was instituted in the 80s to protect the players being landed on.
     
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  8. Angkor Wat

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    It's football. The only rule should be no helmet to helmet. Besides that, it should be anything goes!
     
  9. RoxSqaud

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    I would love to see Romo get drop kicked.
     
  10. Bellaire Brody

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    Ok, this is ridiculous. I truly hope you're joking.
     
  11. marks0223

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    Two things I would like to see changed. Holding penalties should be 5 yards, not 10. Holding happens all the time and when they decide to call it, its a killer penalty. Extra points eliminated, TD is 7 points but still allow for a conversion attempt from the 2 yard line for one extra point if successful and subtract a point if conversion failed.

    The new playoff OT rules should apply to the regular season as well.
     
  12. vinsensual

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    A personal foul for challenging any touchdown play is beyond stupid too. Kubiak got a 15 yard penalty for an "illegal challenge."
     
  13. ToyCen428

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    Ive never seen this happen before. Especially this year, didn't they change it so ALL SCORING PLAYS would be reviewed if needed?
     
  14. Bellaire Brody

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    But if a coach throws their red flag it's a personal foul. The review can only be initiated from the booth.
     
  15. adboy

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    happened to kubiak this year
     
  16. ToyCen428

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    Yeah that is a pretty dumb rule.

    I think they should broaden of selection of plays that are reviewable. Too many missed calls go uncorrected because of this.

    Also, a ton of personal fouls that need to be adjusted.

    For instance, there was a play with the Redskins 2 or 3 games back, where it was 4th and 9 on the 50 yard line. Redskins punt the ball, and a defender runs into the punter after the ball is kicked. Redskins punter gets hit on the side of the knee, and is unable to perform anymore punts the rest of the game.

    This penalty, running into the kicker, is a 5yd penalty. So if Redskins accept, it will be 4th and 4 on opponents 45yd line. Would still be a punting situation, but we'd be risking it with a high risk unknown player to punt the ball. So Washington declines the penalty.

    Why aren't fouls against the punter/kicker more aggressive to protect them as they do the QB?

    Another play that gets me mad:

    <iframe width="1280" height="720" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Iv1f37dVNZ8?hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Would it be so wrong and such a waste of time if one team feels this flag that was thrown was bogus, in a crucial part of the game and want it to be looked at again?
     
  17. plutoblue11

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    The Tuck Rule/Forward Pass

    NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.[1] (Introduced in 1999)

    Like at every other level of football, if it comes out of your hands before you hit the ground, it should be a fumble. If your arm is coming forward for a pass, even as it gets into a full throwing motion, yet falls out of your hands . . . it should still be a FUMBLE.


    Helmet to Helmet/roughing the passer rule

    Should be applied as a result of that, not when a defender's hand brushes across a QB's helmet.

    Not really a rule, but I don't think all interceptions should credit to the QB:

    This is in circumstances where the receiver actually touches the ball, for examples, the ball brushes against his hands and suddenly veers right into a defender's hands. Or even when, a receiver miffs a catch (or if the ball bounces off him, especially his hands or arms) and a defender catches it. It should a turnover against the receiver, and not the QB.



    Cell phone usage (shouldn't apply in emergencies)
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...alu-fined-10k-making-sideline-cell-phone-call

    NFL Dress Code (some of it is ridiculous):

    The orange shoes thing (If you play for a team with orange colors, it matches the outfit)
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/18/stafford-fined-7500-moore-fined-15000/


    Bandanas or "do-rags" are prohibited. Only league-licensed skullcaps are permitted.
    Helmet visors / eye shields require a doctor's examination, plus an examination by a separate NFL doctor.
    http://www.uniformviolation.com/RulesRegs/RulesRegs-NFL-Head.php


    Wrist bands must be black or white. No other color wrist band is permitted.
    Uncovered “What Would Jesus Do?”-style and Lance Armstrong “Live Strong”-style bracelets are prohibited.
    http://www.uniformviolation.com/RulesRegs/RulesRegs-NFL-Hands.php

    Personalized messages on shoes is prohibited.
    http://www.uniformviolation.com/RulesRegs/RulesRegs-NFL-Shoes.php
     

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