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What EVIDENCE do we have that Morey is doing a great/good job?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BackNthDay, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Please go back to hitting the egg nog instead of subjecting us to this assery.

    Carroll Dawson's "relationships" didn't stop him from getting publicly burned by Glenn Grunwald, from bad signings like Stromile Swift, or from acceding to Rudy's wish to draft every tall white outside shooting pF he could find in hopes of finding the next, well Rudy.
     
  2. larsv8

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    I like you, but that is a huge stretch.

    There is no way to substantiate that claim without working in upper management of the NBA for the past 20-30 years.

    Just on the top of my head, Morey has made trades with Kings, Magic, Grizzlies, Hornets, Suns and Spurs. He has had deals close with Lakers, Blazers, Raptors and GS.

    Thats 7 Western conference teams and 3 within the division. His relationships are fine.
     
  3. Aleron

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    An Adelman issue really, someone had to because Rick wouldn't. Phil Jackson never spoke to the media much either mind you, but when he did, he'd talk in martian and leave them to try and analyse one press deal for 2 weeks.
     
  4. Spooner

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    I see you have still conveniently chosen not to address my question to you. Listen, you can ignore my posts if you want to, I would probably do the same if I were in your situation. The fact of the matter is, you don't have an argument. Instead you are busy focusing on skewing what others have said. Here is a question, where is it that roslolian said he didn't like Adelman, let alone blame him for anything? Seems to me, you are the only one pointing fingers on baseless assumptions. What you just wrote is based on a complete fabrication of the truth, which leads me to believe you have either completely misunderstood his post, or you are simply grasping. I guess you have to resort something, as your argument doesn't hold up at all.
     
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  5. roslolian

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    I like RA as a coach, but only if the roster is already championship calibre. On team like the Lakers, Miami or the Celtics he's awesome, and I'd rather have him r than Rivers, Mike Brown and coach Spo. However he's a terrible fit for a "$ball" team, where you have a lot of spare parts and you need to be able to make adjustments and be active all throughout the game.

    I'm just stooping down to your level of thinking, weren't you the one who started this whole "Rockets suck, its morey's fault" logic in the first place? That's why I know for sure you are a troll, if you already acknowledge Tmac and Yao are responsible for the team's record why do you keep b****ing about Morey? :rolleyes:

    What promises are you talking about? One team? LMAO I'll give you three: New Orleans, GSW, PHX Suns.
     
  6. Raven

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    You could take the best traits of Morey and CD, and combine them into one super GM, and it still wouldn't matter, because Houston isn't LA, Miami, or NY.

    :(
     
  7. ascaptjack

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    Yes because Tracy McGrady, Charles Barkely, and Scottie Pippen couldn't wait to LA, Miami or NY.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  8. ken

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    Not a dam thing...i have been telling you guys mory not what you think he is
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    You forgot Memphis and Utah.;)
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Many of you are either blind or just plain ungrateful. Morey has given you all what you have asking for. A lottery-built, contention-worthy team.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    Morey is a top 5 GM in this league....that means he is elite at what he is doing.
    Even elite GMs fail sometimes
     
  12. morpheus133

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    CD was able to bring Barkley, Francis, and Pippen because of the allure of playing with Olajuwon. He got Yao because we were bad and lucky enough to get the number one over all pick. Tmac wanted to come here because of a completely healthy at the time Yao. If we had a completely healthy Yao or Olajuwon in his prime I think Morey would have a lot easier time getting other stars to come here as well.


    CD also signed a ton of terrible contracts and drafts. Moochie Norris, Brent Price, Brice Drew, Matt Maloney, Kelvin Cato (6 yrs $42 million), Shandon Anderson, Glen Rice, Maurice Taylor (6 yrs, $48 million), and the "big name" trade for Eddie Griffin turned out to be one of the worst trades the Rockets have made in the last decade, costing us Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong for someone who's high point was averaging less than 9 pts a game. Basicly the only good draft picks CD had over 10 years was Yao and Cutino Mobley. After that his best picks were argueably Othella Harrington, Kenny Thomas, and Luther Head...
     
  13. rock4ever

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    Dude, I've already addressed you. You have no point lol. So what if the FA's go to NY, LA or Miami? If Daryl Morey's the GM of this team his job is to lure FA's to the Rockets so we can build a nucleus of young talent. The FACT is he hasnt done it. Is that baseless? Look at our roster and look at Minnesota's, you'll notice even THEY have better pieces for the future than we do. After 4 years where's the accountability? The Rockets are bottom level talent by NBA standards. Don't believe me, just look at all the other teams in the Western confernce. Daryl Morey isnt getting it done
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    CD was older.

    Therefore, he was better.
     
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    And you could get it done given this situation? I highly doubt it tbh. Infact, you clearly do not even understand the situation.

    If you were to evaluate transaction-by-transaction, almost all of them would look really really good.

    The reason why we don't have that talent is because he inherited a team with two virtually untradeable (due to marketing) superstars who both ended up losing their careers due to injury.

    This team is basically nothing more than a supporting cast and a pretty above-average one at that. He tried to get a star (Pau Gasol) but it was shot down by the league.

    What is your definition of pieces for the future? We have a ton of youth, a ton of capspace, some first round picks (including ours which is potentially lottery. According to you, we are the worst team in the Western Conference). I think Morey knows what he is doing and I'd rather have him GMing than you (because clearly you do not know what he is doing).

    With Yao gone, this is Morey's chance to actually assemble a team from the ground up. IMO, he did the best anybody possibly could with the Yao situation (keep in mind, Yao is untradeable due to marketing).
     
  16. rock4ever

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    Well, this was you're actual post............

    Lost it? The best winning percentage in franchise history with a undersized team with NO superstar & countless injuries???. Do 22 game winning streaks count? How about 1st round playoff wins in nearly a decade? He CLEARLY overachieved given the short-handed roster. Please elaborate on how he "lost it"?:confused:

    Lmao. You calling me troll doesnt mean anything (especially coming from YOU outta all people). I just think Morey's the most overrated GM in the league. I dont like the way he handled the JVG or Adelman firing. I dont think most of his trades have really made us better either.


    New Orleans
    Eric Gordon
    Belinelli
    Ariza
    Landry
    Okafur/Kaman

    GSW
    Curry
    Ellis
    Wright
    Lee
    Biedrins

    Phoenix
    Nash
    Pietrus/Childress
    Hill
    Frye/Warrick
    Gortat


    Are you delusional? Um, you wanna explain how we're more talented than those teams? Especially GSW..:rolleyes:
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    My god, so folks think that Morey has as many relationships in basketball in his short time as CD who coached, and became GM and was involved for more than 40 years.

    Wow...

    DD
     
  18. dharocks

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    Folks probably think it doesn't makes an ounce difference in this business. Teams and agents aren't going to give you a better deal or the time of day because they've known you a long time and think you're a swell guy. They're going to do what's best for them.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Of course they are, but relationships matter, especially in getting deals done.

    DD
     
  20. The Rock MVP

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    Choose your words wisely. I can name 5 better GMs right now.

    1. Laker's GM - Mitch Kupchak
    2. Miami's GM - Pat Riley
    3. San Antonio's GM - RC Buford
    4. Dallas GM - Cuban/whoever has the title
    5. Thunder GM - Sam Presti

    People on this board seriously started to idolize Morey for one trade which was the Ron Artest deal which was pretty good. Sadly, these GMs all have...

    1. Kept their teams competitive to say the least even after winning championships.

    2. Drafted extremely well and have not overpayed for free agents (except the whole richard jefferson thing with spurs)

    3. All reload instead of rebuild EFFECTIVELY meaning not the way Morey is now.

    Disclaimer: Before people begin to burn me and say Lebron, Wade, and Bosh colluded to get to Miami....they won a championship with shaq a few years before and then still got these guys. OKC has done a good job of building a championship team. All 5 GMs have done better consistently over the same time as Morey.
     

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