What EVIDENCE do we have that Morey is doing a great/good job?

I think your WAY to optimistic about the trade that didnt happen. First off, Gasol's not a player to build around. Also, Gasol's effort isnt always there (see last years playoff) and he didnt want to come here anyways. Nene's definatley a upgrade, but the days of having two centers clogging up the paint are OVER. The NBA has moved to more athletic bigs who run the court, shoot & make plays off the dribble. After watching the Lakers get exposed last year (Gasol/Bynum), Im wondering how you guys would be okay with basically the same thing with Gasol/Nene. Bottom line, the trade was another LATERAL move by Morey. If it's really about rebuilding, then the trade was a very bad move by NBA standards for the Rockets.

As far as our current situation, we're still a bottom level talent with or without the trade

 

Their is no evidence.

 

When was yao healthy again? The point is, tehy bit the bullett, finished bad enough and then moved up and got williams. They beat the veteran rockets 2 straight years. They didn't want to wait on williams, so they shipped him off and got the most talented guy in last years draft, nj's 1st pick this year which was lotto and another lotto pick. We didn't hear about the trade and it didn't fall through. It happened quick and sudden and it was a great trade. What kind of contract came back? Basically devin harris whom they can amnesty if they like, but he's an expiring which adds more value. They have probably won just as many games and have been further in the playoffs and have did a rebuild in the same span the rockets have been out of the playoffs the last 2 yrs.

 

I dont hate the guy, I just think fans like you are so overly emotional you'll never have an unbias opinion about Daryl Morey. You act like Morey's your father

 

Its all fueled by a serial outbreak of back-in-the dayism. It bothers people that shane battier or courtney lee or whoever is now recognized as a better player than ricky davis because its counterintuitive according to traditional measures. Things have evolved. Its not a big deal the human eye and brain aren't perfect. Neither are numbers. New school stats recognize this.

 

Completely agree. Morey probably does too, but tanking is expensive.

 

Morey leans too much on advanced stats. Advanced stats are great but their is more to basketball then just stats.

Moreys statistical analysis allowed him to start one of the worst defensive teams ever. How could you ever start a front line of battier, scola and Hayes. That might of been the least athletic front line ever. To top that off Kmart at the 2.

Morey doesn't value athletic ability enough. Taking charges like scola and hayes did was great but altering shots at the rim is what really wins games.

 

Ia m not convinced yet. We will find out what this group of young players have this year and what his plans are to a fuller extent. If its not impressing my by the end of this year???? Then he cant be doing too good a job. If they show some sign of life? Then he can at least get some props.

 

So who do you propose we play instead of K-Mart, Scola and Hayes? They're the best we've got (and we got K-Mart for T-mac's corpse, Scola for V-Span, Hayes for absolutely nothing).

And what do you mean he doesn't value athletic ability? That's a load of crap. Landry? (Short but explosive), Brooks? (Small but quick), T-Will? (Immature but ridiculously athletic and talented) Courtney Lee?

 

Every player you mentioned is undersized at they're position

 

Any Nba team has some athletic players but overall the rockets have lacked athletic ability ever since Morey took over.

Who should we play the problem is he should of never put those guys together. Even when we had Yao we surrounded him with the wrong people. Scola was never the right fit good player but Yao needed an athletic 4 man to mask his lack of athleticism.

It was Morey who put together the least athletic front line in recent memory. How can you be a decent Gm and put together a lineup last season with Kmart , cbud and scola starting? You can't put together 3 of the worst defenders on the NBA in the same starting lineup.

 

Why do we need to mask for Yao's lack of athleticism? What does that do? Look at the history of NBA Champions, a large number of teams have won with two non-athletic frontcourt players.

Scola was a great fit for Yao. He has an extremely reliable jumper, but is also capable of playing post. His versatility on offense opens up the floor for Yao to operate.

And you must not have followed the Rockets for very long because pre-Morey our frontcourt was not very "athletic" either.

Morey was given 2 giant contracts that added nothing to the team which severely limits his available options, yet he still manages to put up a winning record with the so called 3 worst defensive players.

 

Yao needed a athletic 4 man because Yao would get killed on pick and rolls.

You say winning records, I say mediocre

 

there are no evidence that morey is doing a good job, he is grossly overrated.

signing d league players .no backup center for years....cant make change when you need it. good at collect junks. that's why we are what we are right now, no star, no respect, no one wants to play here. the deal blocked by stern now become his get out of jail card. when you fail to do your job, its so easy to blame everything on others. every challenge also presents an opportunity. some do thing boldly and turn thing around, morey couldn't do it. so here we are: mediocre, heading to nowhere.

do you remember how many times we signed mike harris?

 

Evidence would be

1 playoff appearences
2 young stars with upside
3 Championships
4 lineup of older stars ready to make a decent run
5 really good draft picks to hope for


I am just drawing a blank on which one of these he has accomplished. So it is not a good job. Its like the teams record in fact. Severely average to below average. So far.

 

6'7" is undersized for an NBA shooting guard?
If 6'9", 245lb is undersized for an NBA PF then it is just barely.

 

Speak the truth yo!

 

Okay this is getting nowhere.

It's like you are completely oblivious to how we got these players in the first place.

Yao got killed on pick and rolls? You do know that the Rockets, under JVG, was top in defense right? Our team, even in the first year with RA, was consistently ranked as the top defensive team. That certainly speaks a lot about how bad our defense with Yao is right?

No **** they are mediocre. What do you expect Morey to do? To pull draft picks out of his ass?

How would you do any different? I would love to see your solution.

 

Simple solution once Yao went down it was time to rebuild. Trade off scola, martin and C lee. We would have our own lotto pick and im assuming with those three players we could either get multiple 1st round picks or 1 lotto pick. Deepest draft in years and we would have two lotto picks.

 

What do you mean once Yao went down? His very first injury? His second? His third?

There are so many things wrong with your statement its ridiculous.

You didn't take into account the fact that:

1. Les didn't want to rebuild
2. NO teams are willing to give up a lotto pick for Scola, Martin and CLee because only crap teams have lotto teams and crap teams have no need for those players
3. The fact that we're not playing 2k12.

Ignoring the last two points, how you approach the situation if Les is unwilling to rebuild and most likely unwilling to part ways with Yao was well?