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Rockets in negotiations with Dalembert

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Spooner

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    Does Manu score 30 a game? No. He scores just as much as Pau. It is funny you mention Randolph, as if he is any better than Gasol.

    You fail to realize the impact Nene would have on offense. Scoring 15 ppg 615% is insane. Since you are so bent out of shape to only look at ponts per game, lets see how he does post Melo. Kyle Lowry is primed for a breakout year, and our roster is full of scorers...

    If you were to look a little deeper into statistics than surface level ppg, then maybe you would understand why everyone thinks you are a troll. At this point you are just reaching...
     
  2. flippedfk

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    It’s on Houston local TV. KTXH channel 20.
     
  5. flippedfk

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    Randolph is better then Gasol did you watch last seasons playoffs. Zbo was one of the top 5 players in the playoffs last season. He hit clutch bucket after clutch bucket and he carried a team the way I have never seen Gasol come close to doing.

    Ginobili has the ability to take over the game like few other players in the NBA. Ginobili is also one of the most clutch players in the lg. He is also an absolute beast in the 4th quarter. It's not all about ppg its about how ginobili can take over games especially down the stretch.

    At the end of close games who on that rockets team would make the big baskets. Your insane if you think going to Gasol in the clutch is a recipe for success
     
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    Does that channel have a website they'll show it on? I don't live in Houston
     
  7. flippedfk

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  8. BimaThug

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    On the "Draft Pick to New Jersey" issue:

    People need to stop confusing "very deep draft" with "you can get a superstar in the #12 to #14 range."

    Yes, the 2012 NBA Draft is expected to be very deep. But no, the number of potential superstars is not going to dip appreciably deeper than in any other year. Yes, there may be 1 or 2 more REALLY good players in 2012 than in recent years. But those players will NOT be available wherever the Rockets select.

    Where the depth of the 2012 draft will be seen is from the late lottery to the mid- to late first round. The quality of THOSE players will be better than in most years.

    Keep in mind that, in the past two drafts, Daryl Morey has selected two players with the #14 pick (in Patrick Patterson and Marcus Morris) who he viewed as mid-lottery talents (allegedly, he had Patterson at #6 overall in 2010 and Morris at around #8 overall in 2011).

    THIS would be about the best possible scenario for the caliber of player the Rockets can realistically hope to get in the 2012 NBA Draft if they miss the playoffs.

    The Rockets also expect to select in the #19 to #23 range with the NYK pick. Fortunately, the depth of the draft will be felt most in THIS range, allowing a team picking here to get a late lottery level talent.

    I ask you this: Why do the Rockets need TWO more of these players? They've already got enough of those and will be adding at least one with the NYK pick. The MIN second rounder could also net a typically mid- to late first round talent, as well.

    Frankly, if the Rockets are going to be anywhere in the same range of teams, lottery-wise, I'd rather they just win some games and make the playoffs.

    Get that New Jersey pick obligation out of the way. It makes future trades significantly easier to make without that obligation (and the Ted Stepien Rule) muddying the waters.

    Also, for the Rockets to make the playoffs will require a serious improvement by at least a couple of the Rockets' young players, which will only be a positive towards the franchise's future.

    Plus, by competing and making the playoffs, it can only help the value of every rotation player on the roster. There are plenty of very talented players on perreniel losers that subsequently lose their trade value. No one wants a loser.

    Well, that's my two cents on THAT subject. Carry on.

    (Disclaimer: If the Rockets really start sucking as the season progresses, I reserve the right to change my opinion.) ;)
     
  9. thumbs

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    Actually, he saves on state income tax in more than 41 games, depending how many are played in Florida, Tennessess and New Jersey, all of which do not have a state income tax IIRC.
     
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    The Nuggets were 5th seed in the WC last season. Their record after the Melo trade was around .700 or better.
     
  11. Spooner

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    I don't even know why I bother... You obviously don't remember the Boston-LA finals battles.... What's worse is that you seem to base everything solely on arbitrary comments of who is clutch and who isn't, based on a few playoff games you might have happened to see in the past. You have nothing to back up anything that you say. Were you even aware that Gasol was an MVP candidate last year or that Randolph was in a contract year? You clearly have not watched every game in the NBA and instead of basing your argument on anything factual, you choose to take a somewhat emotional approach. (Aside from points per game LOL!!!!) Welcome to ignore. I am tired of arguing with people who just don't get it. Funny to me, the correlation between those of you who can't quite see things for how they are, and those who can't quite get a grasp of the fundamentals of grammar. (Much less basketball statistics.)
     
  12. Ricksmith

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    *Sigh* You keep making assumptions, so I made an assumption as well to show you how stupid it is to act like assumptions are facts.

    There are 3 key categories of people on Clutchfans:

    1. Homers that overvalue our players (I give this category around 50% of our population)
    2. Haters who watch basketball and think they can be a better GM than someone who does it for a living (this would be your category)
    3. People who see things rationally and understand that to get something, you have to give something (Pau Gasol trade).
     
  13. flippedfk

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    Ok lets talk facts, Morey is taking the rockets nowhere fast. Gasol is 31 years old and his playoff run last year was not impressive. Also their are many stats that back up ginobili's 4th quarter production.

    Please give some examples of Gasol doing anything close to what Randolph did in last seasons playoff run
     
  14. flippedfk

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    Zack 20 and 10 three years in a row. He has been around 20 and ten his entire career.
     
  15. flippedfk

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    ZBo has always been vastly underrated.
     
  16. Spooner

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    Gasol puts up similar numbers but is a much, much better defensive player....
     
  17. flippedfk

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    What exactly has Morey done in his past or present that shows he is a viable gm.
    You are correct I know i could do a better job then Morey. Morey has done nothing for the rockets. It would be almost impossible for me or anybody else to do worst.

    The rockets are in the worst possible position stuck in the middle. The rockets are the definition of mediocrity.

    Sorry I did not go to MIT and I do not worship Hollinger's statistical analysis.

    At least I have the common sense to understand when it's time to start over.
     
  18. flippedfk

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    Randolph puts up better numbers and your correct Gasol is better on defense. Their basically a toss up.

    I favor Randolph over Gasol because I have seen him carry a team in a way which I have never saw Gasol. Randolph showed me the ability to be a go to player while Gasol has shown me to be a great secondary option
     
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    You didn't? :confused:

    Had me fooled there for a while!
     
  20. crimmy88

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    To be fair, Randolph had the better supporting cast last year and Pau's prime is being spent as the 2nd option with the Lakers.

    ALSOOOO...I will never forget this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2fn01cngg
     

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