[Government Sanctioned Theft] IDF agrees to expansion of West Bank settlement

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Dude, she was a witch. How do you not support the beheading of witches? They are evil, evil people...

 

That is awful.

 

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/500-lashes-and-jail-for-aussie-in-saudi-arabia-20111207-1oill.html

500 lashes and jail for Aussie in Saudi Arabia


Mansor Almaribe

A Victorian man has been sentenced to 500 lashes and a year in jail in Saudi Arabia, with his family fearing he will not survive the punishment.
Mansor Almaribe, from the Victorian town of Shepparton, was found guilty of blasphemy by a Saudi Arabian court yesterday.
The 45-year-old father of five was arrested in the city of Medina on November 14 while making the Hajj pilgrimage and accused of insulting companions of the prophet Mohammed.

It has been reported he had been reading and praying in a group when accosted by religious police and arrested.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said the Australian ambassador in Saudi Arabia had been in touch with authorities to plead for leniency.
"The Australian ambassador has been in touch with Saudi authorities after a 45-year-old Australian man was sentenced by a court in Saudi Arabia to one year in jail and 500 lashes," a DFAT spokeswoman said.
A consular official attended the sentencing, where Mr Almaribe was initially given a two-year jail term, which was subsequently reduced.
One of the man's sons, Mohammed, told the ABC on today his father had serious health problems.
"Five hundred slashes on his back and he has back problems. I wouldn't think he'd survive 50," he said.
Mr Almaribe is a constituent of Liberal MP Sharman Stone, who has called on Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd to intervene, "even perhaps to remove the sentence all together if that can be achieved", she said.
Further comment is being sought from DFAT.

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But Mathloom is more outraged over a few buildings built by Israel in the desert. And so is Hydhypedplaya.

 

Meanwhile, in Pakistan:

Police rescue 50 boys from Karachi madrassah dungeon
Police have rescued more than 50 boys, some in shackles, from a warren of rooms beneath a madrassah in Pakistan's largest city, Karachi.

Officers raided the dungeon, equipped with hooks and chains, after a tip-off that children as young as seven were being beaten and abused.
Television pictures showed them singing and dancing as they were released from the underground maze of rooms.
Some of the children said they had been enrolled by their parents to cure them of curses or to be treated for drug addiction.
One said he had been beaten 200 times and another said he had been told he would be forced to join the militant Jihad if he tried to escape.
Azmat Ulla, a 17-year-old student, said his father sent him there because he suffered fits and could be violent.

"My father took me to several spiritual healers who said I was a victim of black magic," he told the AFP news agency.
"Three months ago I was admitted here.
"My father pays 3,000 rupees (£22) per month to the madrassa as a fee to make me a normal person, but I still suffer from fits and despite that they kept me chained and beat me with sticks ruthlessly."
Religious seminaries, attached to mosques, are the only schools available to many of the poorest children. About two million boys are educated in Pakistan's 15,000 madrassahs. [but, of course, religion has nothing to do with the problem ]
But regulation is notoriously lax. Many have been linked to extremist groups, such as the Taliban, and funnel impressionable boys to militant camps in Pakistan's tribal areas.
Pakistan's Interior Minister on Tuesday ordered an investigation into the madrassah in the central Sohrab Goth district of Karachi.
Police officers at the scene said some of the students had even been shocked with electric wires.
They arrested two teachers and took all the students into protective custody, including men in the 20s as well as two boys aged 7.
"They were kept there like animals," said Akram Naeem, a police officer.
There is little state care for people with learning difficulties, mental illness or drug problems in Pakistan. Many end up in prison or are locked up by their own families – for their own protection or out of shame.
Some parents arrived at the local police station to ask for the madrassah to be reopened.
"I brought my grown up son here because he is a drug addict and he was making my life miserable," one told a local television station. "I don't want to take him back."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...e-50-boys-from-Karachi-madrassah-dungeon.html

 

And how did you come to this asinine assumption? Mind detailing what thought processes you underwent to jump to the conclusion that I am more outraged about the actual topic? You know, the thing the the thread title is referring to and not the off-topic articles you posted.

Do you somehow believe an argument from silence is proof of anything besides your own delusions?

 

Why don't you go harass some front desk people, asking for more booze.

 

And how did you come to yet another asinine assumption? Because that wasn't even me, so trying to slander me with your baseless statements is pretty futile.

But please, continue displaying your idiocy and then you won't have to wonder why everyone thinks of you as a joke.

 

Confirmed - it was you.

 

Except if you weren't ignorant on Islam like you always are, you would know Muslims don't drink. So why in the world would I demand free champagne? So, go on, continue talking out of your ass.

But great job ruining another thread with more of your usual bull.

 

Sure, like those rich Arabs who come to Germany, get completely drunk and high and buy lots of prostitutes. I'm sure I must have had hallucinations when I saw them drink like there's no tomorrow in Munich's P1 club...all the time.

It was confirmed that it was you.

 

Dude what's your problem? I'm a lurker on this forum but every thread i click on about this subject you always attempt to derail the topic with unrelated news about muslims? Start your own thread and stop spamming like a jackass

 

LOL did you just get your name changed?

Right now, I hate David Stern, and he is not a Muslim. So GTFO .

 

I think this thread is a perfect example of a strawman argument. Almost textbook.

MEANWHILE IN CANADA

Outraged because Kent had refused to allow Opposition critics to travel as part of Canada’s delegation, Trudeau leaned forward and hollered across the aisle: “Oh, you piece of sh--!”

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...deau-hurls-obscenity-at-peter-kent-in-commons

obviously you are not outraged at all by this. sickening. why in the hell would you not discuss this in a thread about Israel constructing more settlements!

 

Nice try to paint the Israeli victims of terror as the originators of the terror against them.

 

What on earth are you talking about? Both elections were strongly contested. Hamas and Fatah where both strong parties in the Palestinian elections. Hamas took 44.45% of the vote. Fatah took 41.43% of the vote. The rest of the vote was split among the other parties. That is hardly an election with only one possible winner. Hell, that was a closer election than the last US Presidential election.

The group that eventually formed the government didn't even have the single strongest party in Israel, the left leaning parties just couldn't put a coalition together because they couldn't appeal to the religious conservatives. How could there only be one possible winner if the government can only be formed by coalition? That makes absolutely no sense.

I think you are confused. Israel is the country that is fighting Hamas. Hamas is only as powerful as the Palestinians and their Iranian paymasters allow them to be.

I didn't realize the legitimacy of either the election in the PA or the one in Israel was reasonably questioned. A lot was made of Hamas winning, because some countries would not have diplomatic relations with a terrorist organization, but I think everyone was pretty sure that the Palestinians had cast their votes for Hamas fairly.

Generally yes, people prefer peace to war. The devil, as they say though, is in the details.

You act as though the governments are some alien entities that have no relation to the people. That is not the case. The governments are the elected representatives of the people. The divergence of interests is between the people as much as the government. Were it not, the people would elect a government which better served their interests.

I would say their problem is more a hostile group that won't behave well enough to just have the west bank and Gaza handed over to them, compounded by hostile neighbors all around them who talk in support of the Palestinians but don't do the things that would really help them. What you described sounds more like the Palestinians' problem.

They had an election. They elected a terrorist organization. Sometimes elections don't turn out well. That doesn't mean that the election didn't exist or doesn't count. The presence or absence of a constitution is certainly not determinative, there are many countries without constitutions or democratic laws.

I think they should do one of these. Just hand over whatever land they choose and tell them that any attacks against Israel from those territories will be considered an act of war, and be dealt with accordingly. They get nothing from playing these negotiation games, they would be better off just unilaterally declaring a border and enforcing it on their own.

 

It doesn't surprise me at all that we have the usual suspects derailing threads in order to deflect attention away from apartheid, zionist colonization, and gross violations of international law by the Israeli regime.

In other news:

Israeli Mayor Bans Christmas Trees

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2010/12/israeli-mayor-bans-christmas-trees/18141/

What a conundrum for Christian fundamentalists and their blind support for Israel. I'm sure they'll just gloss over this.

 

I'll take banned Christmas trees over beheadings any day.