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  1. Disciple of RP

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    Yeah, he's had some other lofty plans that didn't work out though.

    To be clear, I don't think he's holding the team back or anything...despite a drunken rant against him previously, I personally don't think he's been terrible. But his gather "assets" (read, human beings with feelings) and trade for a star plan just hasn't worked out. At what point do you clean the slate and start over? 10, 15 years?

    If the guy stays savvy and keeps making neat little trades that ultimately get us nowhere for the next 5 years...at what point do you stop and say, "time to try something different with somebody different"?
     
  2. rock4ever

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    What excellent has he done? The real reason the Rockets were a formidable team for 4 years was due to Rick Adelman and staff. Talent wise, we've been at the bottom of the league year in and out. Kevin Martin's a 20+ scorer each night, are you stating Courtney Lee can replace that productivity? If not than who? I'm sure Gasol's a overrall more talented player than Scola, but Scola's effort and hustle makes him more valuable to this team. The real PROBLEM with Morey is he's terrible at making BASKETBALL decisions. 95% of every move he's made has been either cap driven, or +/- motivated. But the guy just doesnt understand how to assemble as good BASKETBALL team (as do his supporters)
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    If this trade does not work out and he brings in a center that had cancer - and the team gets worse with his custom pick at coach.

    He will be gone.

    DD
     
  4. larsv8

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    The way Morey treated the players is the same across the league. It's a myth that our GM is the only one who treats players like assets.

    Rip Hamilton was benched last year for absolutely no reason. Jeremy Lin was pulled from practice and waived by GSW yesterday.

    He has gathered the assets, and he is not about to make his biggest move ever.

    Scola, Martin, Dragic and pick for Nene an Gasol.

    Does that sound so bad to you? It sounds pretty good to me.

    But what's more is he keeps ALL of our young prospects. PPat, Morris, D-Mo, Hill, Lowry. So even if we fail, we're still on a good path to rebuilding, and at the same time we would still have cap space to sign other players.

    Morey has a good plan and back up plan set up. This trade honestly doesn't look so bad.
     
  6. pbthunder

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    I explained it in the same paragraph.

    As for our talent being at the bottom of the league, year in and year out, you must not be paying attention. The complaint is that we're in the middle of the pack, year in, year out. Our middle-of-the-pack teams are, as I said, without bad contracts, and with young players.

    If you look at Morey's draft picks, he has done a great job. AB was low first round. PPatt was #14. Budinger was 2nd round. Joey Dorsey was low 1st - at least he's still in the league. JT is still in the league, and he was 2nd round. How did he do these things if he can't judge basketball talent?

    As for how to assemble a good basketball team, please explain it. Yeah, I thought that putting together young, talented, cheap players was exactly how to do it. Enlighten me.
     
  7. apollo33

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    If he gives up Lee, or Ppat I want him gone and gone forever

    We gave up so much our talent for Lakers to build another dynasty with Paul and Howard, Morey was probably paid by Lakers
     
  8. solid

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    That would be my vote: this thing is becoming ridiculous.
     
  9. cod

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    Setting the Rockets back 3 years by denying the trade?

    Help to facilitate a Paul and Dwight trade to the Lakers... Who's really setting back the Rockets here?
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    or maybe he realized the team he built around Yao not retiring is suddenly just a cast of supporting pieces looking for a foundation, and now he is working diligently to get out of this situation.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    If Morey gives up too much in this deal, all the good will he has built up will be lost due to him bending over for Stern.

    He needs to show backbone and walk away.

    DD
     
  12. edwardc

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    Im beginning to think he want the team to lose.
     
  13. Pistol Pete

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    He gave up too much with the deal that was squashed.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I think so too, but our overall roster was deep enough to sustain it if we signed Nene too....

    But giving up some of the young guys is silly, we need to find out if TWill is going to mature and be the player he could be.

    If Flynn fulfills the promise of being the number 6 player in the draft.

    If JHill finally gets it

    If Thabeet decides to gain confidence and start stuffing people back to Africa !

    This team needs time to find out what they have, and playing time for the younger players in the 3rd year of their deals specifically, it is make or break time for them.

    Not to mention PPat and Morris and CBud getting better with Lowry too...

    DD
     
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    He wants to give up more so he can match the Nets offer to Nene.
     
  16. TheRealist137

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    If these rumors are true that Houston is giving up more then WOW.

    I wish Morey had quit like he said earlier, we would be in a better position.

    This guy has fallen off, is he getting paid by LA? wouldn't surprise me, he probably plans on quitting anyway before the season and just wants to give a giant F*** you to the Rockets before he leaves.
     
  17. rock4ever

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    We were the middle of the pack team because we had a fantastic coach who knew how to maximize the potential of his young players. I gurantee you if we didnt have Rick Adelman, we wouldnt have a respectful record with the talent Daryl Morey brought in. To say he's done a "excellent" job is a gross overstatement. The only thing excellent thing he's done is sell Rocket fans on the notion he knows what he's doing.

    If you want to assemble a good team, 32 transactions in two years wont do it. Also, openly referring to your team as "assets" wont sit well with players either. It's called building team chemistry. Theres no way a team can jell if you keep making lateral moves that dont improve your team. He's been here 4 years and our team has absolutley no players worth keeping for the long run.....:confused:
     
  18. dharocks

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    How about we all just wait and see how this turns out.
     
  19. rock4ever

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    Deep enough to sustain? At what position are we "deep" in???

    Delusional:confused:
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    PF/SF/SG/PG

    We have enough quality depth to sustain the same level by giving up Martin and Scola and getting Pau and Nene...

    Does it make us a threat? No...I think it is actually about a net zero as far as playoffs etc...

    Maybe the new team could be a 5 seed while the current one only gets to the 6th spot.

    Honestly, the trade and Nene signing just seems like candy for the masses......LOOK EVERYONE WE ARE TRYING !!!

    I get that we are trying, but some of us would prefer they TRY in the draft and let the team that finished so strongly last year, hit the ground running THIS year.

    DD
     

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