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League Reverses Course, Now Claiming "New Orleans" Called Off Deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by emjohn, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. emjohn

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    I thought we already knew, as the owners of the Hornets, the NBA called off the trade?
     
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    With all the reverses they are doing they might as well reverse the lockout whiles they're at it because obviously they don't know what they're doing.
     
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    K this is just getting ridiculous now...
     
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    I know its ****ed up about the chris paul trade but what can he do. new orleans are the only team the nba owns
     
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    hornets need to be contracted! who's gonna buy that team after all this bull$hit? plus they only have like 5 players under contract.
     
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    Perhaps they are saying this now as a way to save face, and will let the deal go through following some minor tinkering?
     
  10. emjohn

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    The 29 owners "own" the league, David Stern is an employee of the owners. The NBA is running the team and promised no owner interference.

    Last night, the league emphasized that this was a case of the commissioner blocking a trade for "basketball reasons"...not the owners blocking it. (Because that would be collusion)

    Now they're flip flopping so there's no avenue of appeal.

    If this goes to court, they'll get destroyed.
     
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    I dunno, I still don't like the idea of us trading away Kmart. All Dan G is complaining about is that the Lakers would have saved money and ended up getting the best player in the deal. Force them to give away picks next year and the year after. With DH asking to be traded to NJ I don't think there should be a reason for the trade to be blocked again.
     
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    Is there someone who blocked the trade who only works for "New Orleans" but not "the League"? I mean, Dell Demps was supposed to be that guy, no?
    Dell Demps was "New Orleans," no? And if there is another "New Orleans" out there, I'd imagine this other "New Orleans" was consulted during everty step of the formation of the trade.
     
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    The conflict of interest position arises from the fact that as direct owner of their respective teams the NBA owners want other teams to fail. Stern was basically acting as agent of the other team owners who have a vested interest in the rockets, lakers and hornets all failing. The only deal that will be approved under these circumstances is one that favors the other team owners' interest and is detrimental to the rockets, lakers and hornets. It is in their interest.
     
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    Exactly

    A third man that looks at the interest of the Hornets and the Hornets only is required to avoid conflicts of interest. Dell Demps was supposed to be that person.

    I don't it was legal to veto the trade.
     
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    What stern did was popular to the other team owners , but it was not the right thing to do. the decent thing to do is to respect the autonomy of the hornets and ensure the level playing field. that just shows the character of david stern that he would do what is popular instead of what is right.
     
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    No. That wont stand. They already took a stance different than that and now they must stick with the consequences.
     
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    Dell Demps is the Hornets GM and was given control over personnel moves.

    Dell Demps agreed to the deal.

    Stern went against the Hornet GM and shot the deal down.

    The NBA was acting like a governing body, not an ownership group.

    This really is a no win situation barring Stern reversing himself. Paul can't be traded anywhere now without Kupchack and Morey raising all kinds of **** about "basketball interests," but it doesn't matter because no one is going to offer anything for him now anyway.
     
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    They needed to establish boundaries for Demps and walk away. If the collective owners truly acted as owners...that would already be subject to lawsuit - no NBA owner may own a second NBA team.

    It's possible the NBA is squashing the appeals to partially save face - if a "new" deal is worked out and approved, this all goes away and everyone pretends that they won.

    Reason #64 Stern better take care of this before a lawsuit claiming collusion hits the league:
     
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    The fact that there is already one owner who had his email go public. Then on top of that the New Orleans Hornets acting owner/GM in charge of trades made the deal? There is no reverse course and taking back what was done. It was done by Stern or the owners. That is indisputable right now and cant be changed to fit their excuse.
     

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