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  1. rock4ever

    rock4ever Member

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    Good to see somebody but me sees this. Worst trade in franchise history
     
  2. roslolian

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    You do realize that Morey is the same guy who turned Landry, AB and Spanoulis into KM and Scola.
     
  3. lild713

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    I agree FIRE HIM ANYTHING HAPPEN? i was workin just got off work...
     
  4. jrperales84

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    Good thing it did not happen Scola has outplayed Gasol in head to head games in NBA and overseas. Why would Morey even think about that plus Martin was a top 10 NBA scorer last year can draw fouls and make them. To give up them for a soft Gasol was and is cause Morey did pull the trigger so to speak on it. Les should know better then that trusting Morey.
     
  5. thetatomatis

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    Morey should be fired. Mediocre for 5 years is still mediocre. Until it isnt.
     
  6. Ashes

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    You're right. People would be wondering why the Lakers take such a deal.
     
  7. morpheus133

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    Unfortunately the only other likely alternative given the circumstances is that another GM would have been terrible instead of mediocre. Sounds ok if you think the team would have won the lottery, but then your trusting a terrible GM with making the right pick, and hoping all of that GM's other moves haven't been so bad that your star draft pick leaves first chance he gets.

    I'm still interested to hear what moves you think a different GM would have made that would have made the team a contender today?
     
  8. diegot143

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    i know the deal was called off.... but there is no excuse for having Morey attempting to spit on the fan base like he wanted to do... i dont want him anymore.. fire the sob
     
  9. thetatomatis

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    Its about what he didnt do in 5 years. Not what i would have done.
     
  10. albuster

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    This. And when do we even get close to talking about the Rockets being championship contenders? How many more years does Morey need before we even have a whiff of the championship? Enough is enough. Alexander should fire Morey.
     
  11. snowconeman22

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    Guys in 09 before injury we had a legit shot at the title.... I do think we need to bite the bullet and trade martin and scola for young players / picks ... but really ??? I mean .. we would have overpayed, but you have to for someone of Gasol's calibur and who knows what the next move would have been. A Nene and Gasol frontcourt is one the NBA's best and Lee and Pat are very capable replacements for Scola and Martin ... in fact they might even have a higher potential.

    I mean you are ready to FIRE on the best GM's in the NBA over a trade that didnt actually happen. He has made close to zero mistakes and when he has made one he got out of it quickly.

    He assembles a roster in 09 that if we had gotten lucky ( and you have to have luck regarding health to win a championship ) we could have legitimately competed for a ring. We took the champions to 7 games without our 2 best players. If Yao and Tracy were healthy do you think the outcome of that series would have been differenet.

    Everyone will say but Yao has injury history and so does Mac. Yes .... but the chance to go for it that year was the right choice ... any time you have players that if healthy give you a legit shot at a ring you take it.... even if there is a risk involved. I would say he recovered really nicely with the T-mac trade too... getting martin and picks and hill for an expiring contract and Landry.

    Basically the guy doesnt miss with picks either. He has 2 misses..... both in the second round. He also hit in the second round getting Bud and Landry .... so what he picked dorsey over jordan.... in that draft we had Yao ming and dorsey was much more ready to play than Jordan . As for taylor ... oh well you gotta miss sometimes


    Firing our GM would be the absolute worst descision that we can make ... the guy may not be some super-genious who never misses but he is a freaking good GM.... who would you rather have than him .. and could you reasonably get him. Legit Question. The guy from OKC ... not going anywhere . The GM from portland ... i would say that he has shown quite a few times that he is human. Who else ..... ?? No one is as good

    Morey has several flaws and i think they are all from inexperience... he is still a young first-time GM he is gonna get better. Maybe he doesnt seem human enough to the players ... ok a legitimate flaw , and maybe he improves at this as time goes by . I feel like if it were purely up to Morey we would trade martin and Scola ... get some picks and young players in return and try to get a top 5 pick ... his biggest flaw to me so far is not convincing alexander to do so.

    But jesus its not like He gave up the world for gasol. He gave up two players who have capable replacements on the roster and a backup pointguard plus a pick ( which i didnt like ) for a top 5 big man in the game. I think he could have concievably traded gasol for more return than martin and scola combined. If you tell OKC that Gasol is theirs for Harden and Ibaka + picks + filler it is a done deal. Anyway that happens for Martin or Scola ?? of course not. Even if he kept him we would have 3 years to try and put a good squad around him Nene / Gasol / Morris / Twill / Lee / Lowry / Pat / Hayes / Hill / Bud / Flynn is a great all around squad ...

    I cant believe the huge over-reaction to this trade ... many people say this trade reeks of desperation ... if there is one word i would never use to describe Morey it would be desperate or rash . Cold, Calculating , Unsensitive .... maybe .... but I for one believe he would never do something without thinking it through all the way ... it is just not him. He may even predict wrong moves by others ... but i guarantee you he was formulating in his head 5 steps after this trade . They may not have guaranteed us a ring ... but he knew damn well what he was getting himself into .... better than any of us .... none of us really know the full details either. Neither do any of the " Hack " reporters ( broussard ) telling us details ... how many times did they report that the lockout was almost over . They were sensationalizing the deal and some of them were exstatic that paul could be going to the lakers like they predicted.... Im pretty sure the reported deal had at least one difference to the actual one being worked on ..

    All i am saying is to have a little bit of patience when considering firing one of the most consistent and best GM's in the NBA. How many of you have questioned him before and ended up eating crow.... Im not saying that he is incabable of doing wrong ... but give him time to fully execute him plan ... or at least until the full details of the deal come out ... He has earned it.
     
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  12. TEXNIFICENT

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    If the Rox had been able to sign Nene, then the net result of trade is:

    Lakers get: Chris Paul

    Hornets get: Odom, Scola, Martin, Dragic, & 2012 Knicks 1st

    Rockets get: Gasol & Nene

    Not a bad deal considering you would have Courtney Lee & C-Bud @ SG.

    IMO.:p
     
  13. lild713

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    Yes FIRE MOREY now......he's gettin to Greedy.
     
  14. poing

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    Fire Morey. Let's look at his track record since becoming GM.

    Championships: 0
    Superstars: -2

    He's been at the helm for over FOUR YEARS, and he's failed to deliver. Sure that's less time than it takes for your average dummy Morey supporter to get through high school, but that's far more than enough to win a championship. If we look at the history of the NBA, every effective player, coach, general manager, stadium, fan base, etc. that deserves a championship has won championships in less than four years.

    The man absolutely gets wrecked in trades. I mean who the hell is Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, or Luis Scola? His draft picks are equally ridiculous. Chase Budinger? Patrick Patterson? Aaron Brooks? My grandma could draft better picking random names out of a hat. And now this b*stard has the balls to trade my FAVORITE Houston Rockets, Kevin Martin and Luis Scola...

    Finally, he's lost us two superstars. T-mac was on his way to being GOAT before Morey happened to him, and I'm personally in on the fact that none other than Daryl Morey himself broke Yao Ming's foot. Go watch a replay of the games Yao gets injured and slow that **** down, I dare you. Daryl Morey literally ninjas his way to Yao Ming and smashes his foot with a hammer.

    So I know what you're wondering. With all that GM talent out there so far superior to Morey, who should the Rockets hire instead? Get ready for this answer because it will blow your minds. Isiah ****ing Thomas. How many max contract players has Daryl Morey managed? With Isiah Thomas we'll have more max contracted players than any other team in the NBA. Don't like how Morey is doing in the draft? No f'in problem. With Isiah Thomas we won't even have draft picks, and we don't need them anyways.

    As your average clutchfans lurker, I have incredible inside information regarding the current and future plans of the Houston Rockets, and I think we should fire Daryl Morey. As soon as that happens, Houston will become the largest, most relevant city in America, and our team will have the most nationally televised games in the NBA.

    CP3, DWill, D12, LBJ, Wade, Rose, Durantula, Griffin, Melo, and all future NBA superstars on the Houston Rockets as soon as Morey is fired. Book it.
     
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  15. HombreDeHierro

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    lmao dude awesome :grin:
     
  16. startah

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    Probably the MOST OVERATED GM in NBA.. MOREY is screwing U big time. He traded most of good assets for NOTHING FIRE HE's ASS!!
     
  17. snowconeman22

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    LOL poing you said exactly what i did but by using sarcasm ... im too pissed off at the NBA right now to properly do that ... im impressed man
     
  18. thetatomatis

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    The point is he hasnt done ****. So all the sarcasm in the world wont change it and its been years by now anyways. There is no need to say anymore on that stance. It speaks for itself after a while regardless of excuses to the contrary. If he does? He will get praise. Right now a huge cluster f%%k similar to the Bosh fiasco and others have landed in the wrong direction against him again. Whether all of these things are his fault or not? At some point he better start pulling some luck out of his butt.
     
  19. poing

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    I agree. It's been YEARS. Four seasons is six years too many especially when he had both Yao and T-mac being super productive for the team during the majority of his tenure.

    He hasn't done ****. This salary cap "flexibility" and young "potential" crap is just a bunch of buzz words Morey supporters throw around to mask the fact that Morey has only built a team of almost losers. If we had Mitch Kupchak, Donnie Walsh, or Pat Riley, the Rockets would've won four championships in the same four seasons that Daryl Morey has been largely ineffective in.

    All the sarcasm, optimism, and pessimism won't change a thing, so fire Daryl Morey 'cause clutchfans know best.
     
  20. thetatomatis

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    He can pull that luck out of his buns or from eating Lucky Charms for all I care. As long as it starts to turn to some sort of destination besides 500 team. Its been long enough to have some sort of luck. Luck skill at what he does. Whatever its called. I wont say anything if he finds a few good deals. Its merely cause and reaction. Rockets suck just enough to cause a reaction.
     

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