*******, the SEC mythology-ganda machine is strongest thing in the world amongst the rabble. Cam Newton just b****slapped the entire SEC upside it's head last year for a whole freakin season using the SPREAD Offense that Gus Malzahn was using in an Arkansas High School five years before that. They literally took a high school offense, and used it to dismantle the entirre vaunted NFC South/SEC...ON WHICH A GIMMICK SPREAD OFFESNE WIL NEVER WORK AMIRITE RITE RITE! Prior to that of course, it was Alabama running a mega-boring ass Nick Saban/Big 10 offenseive scheme, game managing their way to victory. ERgo, Newton was fluke, and the high school spread offenses can't work in powerful ESS EE CEE? Right? Wrong, becuase before that it was none other than our lord, Jesus Tebow himself, running Urban Meyer's spread offense and dominating the crap out of the whole league for the previous 3 seasons running. You can of course start going way back before that when you have fat guys like Jared Lorenzen tearing up the league, etc etc etc Spread offense will never work in the SEC! Except for the fact that has worked repeatedly for the last decade.
First, you need to wash your mouth out with soap and then recognize that I am a UH alum. You are smart enough to figure it out. Plus, take a blood pressure pill and a cold shower, this is just sports. Sports is entertainment. You know, like fun. Save the "freak out" for more important things.
Yeah what are these morons thinking????? All you need to do is recruit the next Tebow and Cam Newton, simple.
Isn't the common theme here with Tebow and Newton being that they're incredibly mobile QBs that even NFL linebackers have trouble following? Not a big fan of college football, but I think it's still true that if you try to stay in the pocket and pass the way Brady or Rodgers does, you'll likely be killed in the SEC without an amazing line.
Or Chris Leak or Jared Lorenzen or Tim Couch or a badass wideout like Craig Yeast or Danny Wuerffel or Terry Dean....otherwise a gimmick offense WONT EVER SUCCEED IN ESS EEE SEEE yes, Jared Lorenzen and Kentucky played behind a bunch of future hall of famers on the line, that's the only reason they survived THE MIGHT ESS EEE SEEEE Same as [whoever has played QB for Mississippi State last year]. He nearly got hisself kilt.
Yet you made your argument with mobile, 1st round draft pick worthy, QBs who can play the run-pass option that Keenum obviously is not. So while it may be true that Sumlin's spread offense may not flounder in the SEC, to say it can flourish due to Newton and Tebow is a stretch too.
Sorry charlie, the spread was abusing the SEC long before Jesus knelt in prayer or Cameron cashed his first paycheck as a Tiger. Hal Mumme says hi. mmmm...wrong. Since you two gents are clinging like steerage from the Titanic to this myth....why don't you tell me all the mediocre players who have dominated the SEC in pro style offenses? Lemme seee.......ALabama 2009....with two NFL first round draft picks in the backfield and one at wideout.....oh now that's a simple formula. I'm drawing a blank otherwise. I wish you two were on the other side of a trade with Daryl Morey - this kind of silly bias + Michael Lewis is what made Billy Beane famous.
Big, mean, fire-breathing dragons with scales. Not those skinny, whimsical, mustache-d, chinese-style dragons you find in the Big 12.
Right. Of course it wasn't that long ago that Auburn went undefeated in the dragon-filled SEC and couldn't qualify for the title game because their strength of schedule was too weak. All cyclical....the SEC is super top heavy right now.
No yeah, Big 12 stadiums are just as big. Big 12 fans are just as obsessive. ISU will turn things around with their giant scoreboard that UT paid for. Things are cyclical, OU and UT will be good again, but the good conferences add teams, not run out programs of TAMU and Nebraska's magnitude.
For every ISU there's a Vandy or Kentucky. The SEC isn't always like this, and if you've followed college football for very long you know that. The current mythology about the SEC is just that.
Pac 12: "Puff", get it? Cause they're a bunch of smelly hippies who like to get high. Eh, screw you guys, good material is hard to come by.
Yeah. Kentucky is down. They're getting killed for bad attendance -- around 55,000... ISU's stadium seats 55,000. That's the differentiator. Winning and losing is cyclical, a program's value is not. You cant fit big dragons in tiny stadiums. Mini-dragons maybe, like Paris Hilton ones.
who is talking about attendance??? the cubs sell out all the time. who the eff cares? i'm not taking home the money from the gate, so that's not really my concern.
Things are cyclical but certain teams are positioned better than others to do well. The SEC has more of those teams. Attendance, stadium size, fan base, it all plays a role in a teams ability to succeed. Sure ISU could be good. But they're at an extreme disadvantage compared to... lets say Auburn. The Big 12 ran off Nebraska, Colorado (they have the tools to succeed), and TAMU. The Pac 12, they're on the up-and-up, that's a conference to watch out for. The Big 10, they'll always be around. The Big 12 will be fine, but its not what everyone though it was going to be when they disbanded the SWC.
Sumlin tried to use Illinois as leverage. I think Byrne got pissed off. Now apparently he's pursing Petersen and Kelly? Cool if true. But its still going to be Sumlin I guess... sigh.
and vandy is at an extreme disadvantage compared to...let's say oklahoma st. terrible comparison is terrible.
