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Chances Twill will play more minutes than Morris this season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pge71188, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. dobro1229

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    -I really dont feel like finding these articles, but Jonathan Feigan(call him a reliable source or not) reported that his constant complaining and lockroom distractions became an issue with the Rockets even though they played it down in the media.

    -Terrence was sent to the D-League with the Nets for consistenly showing up late to practice and even games.

    -Terrence himself in an interview when he was back in the D-League talked about how a young fan said something to him that was a wake up call. Even Terrence realized he had issues off the court.

    Does anybody know exactly what happened... no, but your blind if you dont read into what Avery Johnson said, Adelman said, Morey said, Feigan, and even Terrence himself pointed towards.

    The dude had some issues, its not the end of the world for TWill, but despite the "conspiracy" surrounding his apparent "off the court issues" his ON THE COURT play with the Rockets stunk last year, and that cannot be denied by anyone who knows basketball.

    All in all, I still think he can better himself, but not in time to get an extension on his contract. There just isnt enough time to improve that much, and win playing time.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    JR Rider lite.

    DD
     
  3. dobro1229

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    I have to agree with DD on this one. I find it hard to believe that Bud wont win the starting job at first. Not that he's the better player, you just have to account for the amount of experience he has in the system run last year(assuming they still run alot of the same sets) and coachability. Not saying TWill wont get his chance, but its going to have to battle for the position pretty hard.
     
  4. jayhow92

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    Depends in the direction the team goes in.

    If we're playing for the 6th seed, he doesn't see as much pt as morris.

    If we're tanking, then I'm sure we'll be trading our vets (with Bud somehow packaged in). He'll get about equal time on the court as morris.
     
  5. okierock

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    I don't agree with saying that he hasn't played because of off court problems but I think that you can easily support that theory.

    Reasons to play Twill:
    Very athletic
    Very talented
    Success at all other levels
    Plays a position of need
    Could provide athleticism that we don't have other wise
    Gave up a draft pick for him
    Every single person associated with the Rockets from top to bottom employees and fans would love to see this guy succeed and have absolutely no reason to want him to fail.

    Facts:
    He hasn't played

    Reasons not to play TWill:
    (somebody fill in the blank with their guess)

    My guesses:
    1. Bad attitude on the court
    2. Can't play a team game
    3. Issues with teammates
    4. Off court issues
    5. Off court issues with coach
    6. On court issues with coach

    If TWill's problems are 1-4 I don't see him staying around long if they aren't already fixed. If they are 5 and 6 then he gets a clean slate and we'll see what happens. The fact that somebody as talented as TWill that we gave up a draft pick for hasn't played... that says a LOT.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    I also have a real good feeling that Morey would really like to be using either TWill or Courtney Lee as the third string PG after a preseason trade of either Flynn or Dragic. Expect to see a trade of some sort that will open up minutes. The starting SF spot in training camp wont be Terrence's only opportunity for minutes as the season progresses and injuries surely happen.
     
  7. FLASH21

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    All he's had is the twitter mess and a big ego, for good reason. He has the talent to be very special, a lot more special than Bud, since this is where this thread is going.

    If he focuses this season and plays his part he will be vastly improved and could be a fine asset (in more ways than one) in the near future.
     
  8. stmeph

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    With Battier gone after the trade deadline we still didn't see much of Williams. That might have been mainly Adelman, but there have to have been some reasons (good or not) that Williams was benched so hard.

    McHale should give Williams a second chance, but I suspect the window to be pretty narrow. With his talent, playing in the system, he should be the starting SF over Budinger. But he wants to play a point-forward and do his own thing. That never flies.
     
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    If making it to the NBA, becoming a millionaire = Failure, then sign me up.

    That's probably not what you meant, but calling him a failure is rediculous.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    He is a failure as an NBA rotational player, currently he is a bust.

    DD
     
  11. cod

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    Opportunities in sport usually come about when injuries happen. Those injuries did happen last year but we all saw what T-Will chose to do.
     
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    Morey would not have gotten the green light from Les to trade a 1st round pick for Williams for Adelman to sit him on the bench for the whole season.

    Morey obviously wanted Williams to play more. Morey and Les have constant communication. Adelman w/ his ego and stubborness sucked at communicating.

    It had to have been hard for a player to be traded first of all, then to come to a team where the coach took the trade personally because of his "loyalty" to his players, and feel like he isn't wanted. To know the coach doesn't want to play him. Should he be a professional about it? Yes.....but that's easier said than done. Just like if we're working somewhere and our boss doesn't like us, won't speak to us...but treats the other employees differently.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Agreed, big issue between the two for sure.

    Not true at all, Adelman communicated fine, they just did not agree, Adelman wanted to win every game, Morey wanted him to take a longer view - they communicated, they just didn't see eye to eye.

    TWill got some chances to play, he didn't take advantage of them, and his constant "LOOK AT ME" on Twitter did not help him at all.

    What are his fans going to use as the next excuse as to why he is not playing?

    His production is just not that good, and his game did not fit the system the Rockets were running, he is a "need the ball in his hands" guy and he is not good enough to build an offense around him....he can be shut down by simply letting him shoot jumpers.

    He needs to shut up, and improve his attitude and his game, or else he will find out how Gerald Green feels about basketball these days.

    DD
     
  14. cod

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    Either Budinger or Lee would have had to sit if T-Will played. There's only so many minutes to go around.
     
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    Given that this is the message board of the Houston Rockets, and not TWill's personal message board, it is implied that success and failure has to do with the Rockets.

    To this day, TWill had done absolutely nothing for the Rockets. In fact, he's a net negative in terms of impact. His level of failure is only mitigated by fact that the Rockets only gave up a lottery-proteced first for him.
     
  16. BasketballMind

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    I beg to differ sir. He put up solid numbers as a rookie. Made bad decisions as a sophmore....got traded here, and didn't have a chance to have regular rotational minutes. None of us knows what actually happened behind the scenes, but there were reports that he played well in practice. A starter was traded so management could have a look at what they traded a first rounder for and he still didn't get a decent opportunity.

    I don't see how that makes him a bust.....or a failure
     
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    hope not #wordapp
     
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  18. BasketballMind

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    Tell that to Morey....lol....and tell me, how many minutes were Battier getting before he got traded?
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Morey had to trade Shane to open up PT for younger players, and the team actually got BETTER because of it.

    Sometimes coaches are too set in their ways, but if the 4th coach for TWill (McHale) doesn't play him, then what will the excuse be?

    DD
     
  20. BasketballMind

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    Regardless as to why the coach didn't play him....management expected him to play more....those differences are between them....or was.

    Even in those short amount of minutes he was getting because of a huge loss/ huge win...if he would have played outstanding basketball, I still doubt Adelman would habe played him more...and don't get me wrong, there were some games he got to play where he did play great.

    Success and failure should be based on performance, and last season you can't tell me he had a decent opportunity to perform. Not enough to list him as a failure as a Rocket.
     

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