Ha Ha Ha. If Tebow were Muslim, anyone teasing him about his public display of faith would be called an intolerant bigot, and the media would be praising him as a role model. Instead, the media looks for every opportunity to bash him. I wonder why.
Tebow is the guy your mom wants you to be like. Your sisters dream guy and your significant other's fantasy.
It's because Tebow is white. Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders are two of the most religious people in football and nobody crucifies them for their beliefs.
Deion Sanders Testimony “I remember winning the Super Bowl that year, and that night after the game I was the first one out of the locker room, the first one to the press conference, and the first one to go home. And I remember my wife, Carolyn, saying to me, “Baby, you just won the Super Bowl! Don’t you have a party downstairs or something to go to?” And I just said, “Nah,” and rolled over and went to sleep. That was the same week I bought myself a brand new $275,000 Lamborghini, and I haven’t even driven a mile before I realized, “No, that’s not it. That’s not what I’m looking for. It’s got to be something else, I’m so hungry.” That’s when the Lord was really calling me. There was nobody going through it with me. It was just me, one-on-one with God. I tried running from it and running from it, and even when I was playing baseball the following year in Cincinnati, the Lord kept calling me, pulling me, drawing me along. I tried everything. Parties, women, buying expensive jewelry and gadgets, and nothing helped. There was no peace. I mean I was playing great. I got all this media attention and everything the world has to offer, but no peace, no joy, just emptiness inside. The Bible describes it in the first chapter of Ecclesiastes as chasing after the wind, and that’s exactly what it was like. I tried to by myself something to make me happy and I was even emptier than before, because I could see that nothing could possibly satisfy the hunger that was deep down inside of me. I tried throwing myself into my career, into sports, trying to see how far I could go, and when I achieved every goal I could think of, I was right back where I started. Empty, empty, empty and nothing I did could touch that deep loneliness inside of me. I was just running, I couldn’t stop. My life was falling apart. I was pretty much at the bottom during all this. My baseball game started to fall off and before long some of the guys on the team could see something was wrong. But I don’t think anybody ever guessed that my life was in shambles. I was struggling with just about everything in my life. My attorney (Eugene) could see what I was going through and he tried to help as much as he could, but I was so disappointed and disturbed about the way things were falling apart that I wouldn’t listen to his advice most of the time. He talked about his faith, how Jesus gave his life purpose, and things like that, but I wasn’t ready to receive any of that. (Later) I started asking Eugene what it meant to be a believer in Jesus Christ and he was telling me about being saved, and about this time I got a call from a guy I used to play with on the 49ers, Marc Logan. He was playing for the Washington Redskins and he was planning on being in Cincinnati that night and would like to meet with me. So after the game, Marc came to the ballpark and we met. We drove down to an IHOP and we must have sat there for three or four hours. I really respected Mark as a person and as a Christian. After we ate dinner, we sat there in the same seats for hours, and he was telling me about how the Lord was working in his life. At one point he asked me, “Deion, are you saved?” And I said, “No, man, I can’t say that I am. But my attorney has been asking me the same question.” Of course, Eugene knew I wasn’t saved, but I had been reading up on it, and after talking with Marc I went home and went to bed, and this stuff was really on my mind. I was lying there in bed about four o’clock in the morning when I was awakened by these awesome lights in my room. I say it was like a 747 had landed beside my bed, and there was this incredible rush of wind that felt like a helicopter had come in with it. I remember opening my eyes just the slightest bit and saying, “God, if that’s You, take me! Take me, Lord,” and I was trembling all over. Before long it was silent and the lights disappeared, and later that night I got up and opened my Bible to a passage that said, “If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation” (Romans 10:9-10). The words hit me like a ton of bricks. I knew they were meant for me and at that precise moment I was delivered. I put my trust in Jesus and I asked Him into my life. And as soon as I realized what I had done I was so excited I had to tell somebody, so I got on the phone and called my attorney and said,”Eugene, I did it! I got saved!” After that, little things started to change. I was just feeding myself, day by day, constantly growing in the faith. Then there would be a storm there, and I would stumble, but I knew I had to keep on going. The first time I ever gave my testimony, I felt better that I’d ever felt in my life. Telling about the trials and tribulations of the professional athlete it was like the Lord spoke to me and said, “Don’t be ashamed of Me.” He told me to have courage to go on and speak what He had done in my life, and it was just a complete and total transformation that began to work inside of me.” http://jcsuperstars.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/deion-sanders-testimony/
Crucified huh? Just like Christ... Considering the ancestors of Michael Irving and Deion Sander had Christianity shoved down their throats in a most unethical, despicable manner, I agree. They should take a hell of a lot more heat than they do. I'm not so sure white folks view Irving and Sanders as "real" Christians either, precisely because of the color of their skin. Unknowingly, perhaps.
What do you think about the Deion Sanders testimony I posted above. Do you think it was shoved down his throat or do you think something was missing in his life and he found it?
Tebow's religiosity doesnt bother me in the least. People's responses to it says more about their hatred than about Tebow. What bothers me about Tebow is that he sucks ass as a QB just like VY and yet still has a job in the NFL
david carr is one of the most religious people in football and no one crucifies him for his beliefs. god you are so dumb and racist. who are you anyway? it's obvious you used to post here under a different name. also, if you think what you and i did last night was the same, your sorely mistaken. i made a crack about where your wife was from. i do not actually believe she is a mail order bride. well, not until you got so defensive in your response anyway. but to call out the personal appearance of my wife and ex-wife shows what type of person you really are. which i, and anyone else paying attention to your posts, already knew.
Can see where that didnt make sense. (Its less about the religion, more about the WAY of responding) Meaning to say that the "Just get over it" mantra in and of ITSELF can excuse ANY kind of action by anyone. It automatically makes the reactor and responder to be a soft senstitive pansy who "overreacts" and their "panties are in a wad". -Overly preachy bible thumper - "Just get over it" -Gratitious display of violence - "Just get over it" It can remove ACCOUNTIBILITY from the instigator, and instead put it all on the receiver to be accepting and tolerent. But just because you have the ability to shrug your shoulders to something doesnt mean the action you shrugged off is acceptible. So its okay to discuss what is standard and what is extreme.
Overall, its just Tebow is an EASY target. simple as that. I personally don't hate the guy, he's okay. Tebow COULD have been just a regular Chad Henne type out there no one knows about. But he went with the overt christianity. He brought that visibility on himself. Yes there's athletes like Evander Holyfield & George Foreman who project Jesus into everything. There's just a way that Tebow does it along with his fans that just...doesnt seem as cute as it should be lol
Michael Irvin and Deion's ancestors were also freed from Slavery by the Abolitionist movement and Michael and Deion were given rights by the Civil Rights movement, both of which were engendered by Christian values and pushed forward by the blood and tears of righteous Christian clergy and true believers. Like any social system created by humans there's good and bad in Christianity. Personally since almost every aspect of Western (and now world) civilization whether science, philosophy or democracy is indebted to Christianity, IMO it's been overwhelmingly positive to mankind. A logical person can disagree but acting as if Christianity is this great evil that has done nothing but harm is Internet nonsense. Also advancing the idea that Irvin and Sanders might not be considered "real" Christians makes you look like a ****ing ignorant jackass considering the vast majority of Evangelical work is in Asia and Africa. Even the idea that someone outside your own tribe or race might could be equal (as long as you believe in their God) is an idea that Christianity pretty much invented and was spread through Western civilization as Christianity spread. And what kind of cretin posting in a football thread thinks the man's name is "Irving"? Who did he play with? Tom Aikman and Emmitt Smythe? As for Christianity, I think that furor will die down as long as Tebow continues to win. The media doesn't want to associate Christianity with winning. When Tebow was universally understood to be a bust it was fun making yet another association with nutjobs and losers with Christianity but my internet search engine has seen a dramatic decrease in stories with Tebow's Christianity in the headline in the past couple of weeks. Most of it now is asking whether it's sustainable. Let's put it this way Tosh 2.0 and Bill Maher aren't going to be doing any bits on Christian Tim Tebow winning ballgames. That **** is only funny when he sucks.
1. Christian Values? (There is no such thing) Very ethnocentric and naive of you... 2. The ignorance is the thought that evangelical work is beneficial to another culture. Starvation stops menstruation for a reason. 99 percent of all evangelical work in third world countries ends in far more pain and suffering than their was in the first place, on an even greater scale. Do some reading in the field of cultural anthropology. 3. "Obey thy slavemaster" That one really benefited African Americans and "true believers"... Pick and choose, pick and choose, pick and choose... 4. To say that democracy and science benefited from Christianity is just absurd ridiculousness. I can't even justify that with a comment. Christianity and organized religion are responsible for murdering some of the greatest minds to ever walk the planet, and the history of democracy, well, I'll let you do your own reading on that. Organized religion is responsible for raping science and democracy... I'm looking at you Christianity. Spoiler <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MWJM-mOGQ5E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
knote32, you are a strange cookie when it comes to this subject. yikes. Christianity is booming in Asia by the way. And people aren't forcing it down their throats. It just feels right and makes sense to them. Put Jesus first in your life the same way he did for you and then you have peace - like Deion said, something was missing in his life even though it appeared that he had everything. He filled that hole in his heart with Christ.
