1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Brett Wallace's Future with the 'stros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by MadMax, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,379
    Likes Received:
    177,385
    [rquoter]“Brett’s been struggling down there,” Astros general manager Ed Wade said. “It’s a very competitive environment down there. The organizations and fans have high expectations and it’s a short window in which you have to produce. It’s not uncommon for player changes to made and managerial changes to be made.”

    Wallace hit .173 with two homers and nine RBIs in 52 at-bats.[/rquoter]
     
  2. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    18,457
    Likes Received:
    14,667
    Translated into 520 at bats, 20HR, 90rbi doesnt sound too bad. Needs to add 100 pts to that batting ave though.
     
  3. Rockets12

    Rockets12 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,913
    Likes Received:
    644
    Yeah that was pretty sad, the man just completely forgot how to hit. I don't even think he got his power swing back when he was assigned to AAA late in the season
     
  4. Rockets12

    Rockets12 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,913
    Likes Received:
    644
    Yeah but look at the pitchers, I'm sure they weren't the elite pitcher he was pitching against. No way he could keep that up for an entire season
     
  5. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,223
    Likes Received:
    3,437
    Ironically, I actually thought Wallace was one pick Wade couldn't screw up. He was AAA prospect. His skillset was fairly well definied(decent average, decent power). He plays 1st base so it's not like people overrate him on his athleticism or defense or something. So I figured he at least could not flop. At the very least, he'd be a cheap 1B for the next few years while we develop a true power-hitting prospect.

    I guess the moral of the story is to never underestimate Ed Wade.
     
  6. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,409
    Likes Received:
    93
    Wade might be at fault, but the blame is largely on Wallace for not putting in the work to become a decent major-league hitter this season. A red flag was Wallace being traded 80 times before the Philly deal.
     
    #26 TheChosenOne, Nov 24, 2011
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2011
  7. jdh008

    jdh008 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,778
    Likes Received:
    125
    It's was a red flag particularly when you consider the teams that didn't want him. First it was the Cardinals, one of the smarter franchises in the league. Then, it was the Athletics and Blue Jays, two teams that covet hitters like him that get on base and have potential to hit for power.

    All that being said, I was among those that looked past the red flags and was excited about him. Whoops.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,134
    Toronto dumped him on us.

    Ed Wade got owned.
     
  9. Rockets12

    Rockets12 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,913
    Likes Received:
    644
    "Ed wade got owned" that statement seems to be a regular statement now-a-days
     
  10. Rockets12

    Rockets12 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,913
    Likes Received:
    644
    Brett Wallace was a highly rated prospected, he was rated #27 in 2010 by Baseball America, so clearly he was good. In AAA he was a pretty good player as well. He just seems like one of those players that can't hit at all in the majors but own in the minors(sounds a bit like towles)
     
  11. rpr52121

    rpr52121 Sober Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    7,791
    Likes Received:
    3,276
    It is not like Anthony Gose is blowing people away. Still extremely raw, and showing as many flaws in his game as flashes of what could be. At best he is still at least 1.5 to 2 years away from playing in the MLB and that would be with extremely favorable and quick progress.
     
  12. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,707
    Likes Received:
    7,278
    A 20 year old at AA playing CF, swipes 70 bases and hits 16HR, and he doesn't impress you?
     
  13. rpr52121

    rpr52121 Sober Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    7,791
    Likes Received:
    3,276
    Not when he has never hit above 0.262 and he strikes out three times as many times as he walks. Most scouts would tell you his max power is not much more than 16-20 so it would be extremely surprising for his power to increase much. To steal bases, he would first have to get on base.

    So I stand by what I said "Still extremely raw, and showing as many flaws in his game as flashes of what could be."
     
  14. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,707
    Likes Received:
    7,278
    20HR out of a good defensive CF, that can also lead the league in steals, is something scouts drool over. You're right that his average isn't great, but if it was, he'd already be in the big leagues and they'd be talking about how he was a mega-star in the making.

    The only flaw in his game is that he strikes out too often.
     
  15. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    good thing we got him in that... oh, wait...
     

Share This Page