You sure you're not confusing Yates with Leinart? Leinart was the one I saw who stared down his receiver, and almost had a pick six because of it.
I saw what you're talking about, but I wouldn't worry about it yet. Of Yates' 15 passes, all but one or two came in 2nd/3rd and long situations where the Jags could blitz and extend pressure. He just didn't have the time to come off his primary read. It was a much different gameplan from the first half, when Kubiak called passes on 6 of 10 first downs. That gave Leinart some easier throws/reads and let him establish a rhythm. After TJ has a full week's practice with the No. 1 offense (as well as an actual backup), I think Kubiak will do the same for him.
I'm sure, and I'm not absolving Leinart of the same. wow, he blew chunks out there. I kept rewinding the plays and showing my son how he was checking down well before the play ever developed. I think we've upgraded. Question is.. is the upgrade for next year's backup, or for this years playoff run.
The slant to Andre was the one that got me most. Had he thrown a better pass, it was a pick six. But there were at least three instances of this. I'll agree with your point regarding game plan. I'm just saying that this is my greatest concern with TJ.
Hmm, interesting take. Watching it live, I actually thought it was a great throw, believing that Yates knew he had to put it on Andre's back shoulder to avoid being knocked down/intercepted. But maybe you're right and he just got lucky. :grin:
And that is why you sign an experienced NFL QB if you can. All I am saying is that I have a good feeling about Yates. Apparently the Texans felt the same way or they wouldn't have drafted him. But experience is huge in this situation and he doesn't have any. I would rather see an in shape Warner out there right now. But if not, give Yates a shot, at least against the Falcons. Incidently, that is the team he followed as a kid.
my koolaid with tj is that I think he can do better than cam, dalton, gabbert, ponder, even tebow (not a true rookie) because our overall team is better then all of those others. if we get a dalton like performance from tj, i still think the #1 seed can be ours. this idea doesn't seem so far fetched because as i said, our team overall is better than the bengals. i'm excited to see what tj can do.
Really, through all of this, the one thing I still can't believe is that IT'S ONLY WEDNESDAY! I hate football season for the sheer fact that I basically live for Sundays....and NOW, with everything that's happened, I'm chomping at the bit for another Texans game. I'm STOKED to see what TJ is going to do. I have a really good feeling about him.
Manage the game and don't f up...that's all you have to do...Maybe its best he doesn't know it all as he might think too much... Yates and the Texans will make the playoffs...
From Mike Meltser's show this morning, he had a lot of good things to say about Yates. It made me feel a little bit better. Here is the audio.
I wonder if they try having him run a no-huddle like in his first series. Some QBs just have a knack for the hurry up.
Either that, or they're only good when the defense is on their heels and can't send in the appropriate personnel.
It's weird. I'm not near as nervous about Yates being out there as j was about lionheart. Or cousre that be due to shock.
yeah the real panic is going to set in if Yates get's injured. but I refuse to think about that right now. lol it's either the football gods are still punishing us or they say we've paid our dues and it's all meant to be. (with Leinart going down)
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/31265/can-t-j-yates-be-vince-ferragamo-v-2-0 Vince Ferragamo and TJ - good read. The presumption is doom. No team with a third-string quarterback at the helm, a rookie, no less, is going anywhere. But T.J. Yates and the Houston Texans will set about trying to disprove that theory starting Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons at Reliant Stadium The Texans have lost Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart for the season in consecutive games. Now a team with the NFL’s top defense and third-ranked rush offense moves forward with Yates. In a year when Cam Newton, Andy Daltonand Christian Ponderhave played well as full-time rookies and Blaine Gabbert and Jake Locker were top draft picks, Yates was the eighth quarterback selected and the 152nd player drafted. He worked as the third quarterback until Schaub’s injury, not dressing for games and running the scout team in practices. Plugging him in as the lead guy is hardly something the Texans envisioned, and hardly the sort of thing seen around the league. One team that experienced similar circumstances was the 1979 Los Angeles Rams. After losing Pat Haden to injury in Week 10 that season and then getting an ineffective start from Jeff Rutledge in a Week 11 loss tot the Chicago Bears, the Rams turned over the starting job to Vince Ferragamo, then a third-year pro who had never started an NFL game before. Ferragamo posted a 4-1 record over the remainder of the regular season as the Rams won the NFC West. They then beat the Cowboys in Dallas and the Buccaneers in Tampa Bay in the NFC playoffs before they fell to the Steelers, 31-19, in Super Bowl XIV. Someone asked Yates, who was born in 1987, if he knew who Ferragamo was. He said no. Relayed Ferragamo's story, he said simply, "sweet." Can Yates do anything similar? Schaub thinks the rookie is equipped to succeed. “The one thing that I’ve observed, I’ve been in this type of offense now … all the way back into my college days. T.J., for being a rookie, he’s probably picked this offense up to the point where he can function in it well, faster than anyone I’ve seen, including myself, including a lot of players that I’ve been around,” Schaub told KILT radio in Houston this week. “That’s a big credit to him, because this is not an easy offense to pick up. … I, personally, have a ton of confidence that he’s going to go in there and play very well.” It’s not just the understanding, though. Right tackle Eric Winstonsaid Yates is the most athletic of the Texans’ top three quarterbacks. Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. likes Yates’ arm: “He throws the ball quite well and should be able to get the ball to where it needs to be.” And everyone is talkiing about the youngester's calm, a key quarterback quality. The Texans regard themselves as having supreme resolve, and they should. Their top players on offense have missed time -- receiver Andre Johnson was out six games with a hamstring injury and running back Arian Foster missed two and hardly played in one with a hamstring injury -- and outside linebacker Mario Williamswas lost for the season with a torn pectoral muscle suffered Oct. 19 against Oakland. Kansas City probably didn’t come into the season with as much talent as the Texans. But the Chiefs won their division and appeared in the playoffs last season. This season they’ve lost safety Eric Berry, tight end Tony Moeaki, running back Jamaal Charles and quarterback Matt Cassel for the season along the way in their follow-up year. They are 4-7, tied with San Diego at the bottom of the AFC West. Houston’s had far better results overcoming injuries. The mantra is how it’s about the team. “They know how big the challenge is this weekend, but [they are a] very upbeat group, very positive group,” coach Gary Kubiak said. “… It’s a new world for [Yates]. Last week, he’s getting more reps because he’s the backup. All of a sudden, he’s running the team [Wednesday] and got a lot on his plate, mentally from leaving the classroom to coming out here, but he did fine. He’ll get better every day out here, and that’s the most important thing. The key is everybody else making sure they do their job.” Said Yates: “Everybody around me is very confident. You can tell this team hasn’t really skipped a beat as far as intensity or tempo at practice. Nothing seems different except for it’s just a different guy at quarterback.” Atlanta is the toughest team the Texans will have faced in some time. It’s a game they could have lost even with Schaub healthy. If they lose it with Yates it will hardly be a season-killer. They simply need to see he can manage the game, maintain the calm they’ve lauded, and can make enough throws to make a defense either stay honest or pay the price for loading up the box with an eighth defender to slow Foster and Ben Tate. If Yates does that, he can be enough. If he does that, the Texans will have a chance to make us talk more about how he and the Texans can compare to Ferragamo and those Rams. ---------------------------- DD
Yates is interesting. Not well touted coming out of HS so he's sort of a latem bloomer in that regard. Fought to keep the job at UNC for alot of his career. People wanted him out but he continued to beat everyone else out. He certainly put in his work and battlefought. He never did as great as some would have liked but he also managed to limit mistakes. He doesn't have the biggest arm but I think his is bigger than Schaub and leinart. When he came in that 2nd quarter, he didn't look overwhelmed. He's also known as a guy who plays within himself and doesn't take too many gambles. He's also known for his accuracy is Inconsistent. He reminds me a little of flacco in that regard but I'm not sure he is as quite as strong in that regard. At the very least it will be interesting to see how he does. Let's hope that Kubes can work his QB magic
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I think TJ has some untapped leadership skills that are about to shine. With the best running back tandem in the NFL and the best defense, I think the Texans will still win the AFC South, and TJ will turn out pretty good. If the Texans have to play New England, Pittsburgh or Baltimore in the playoffs this year however, they'll lose.
