interesting. The Rose rule. For 5th year players, only those with MVP or multiple allstar appearances or All-NBA are eligible for a super max salary (30% instead of cap versus 25% of cap)...and only by signing with their own team ... SnTs don't count. Considering the criteria must be achieved within four years, let's see if we can name and/oir predict those who will be eligible for the super max. Rose -- already qualiifies Griffin -- sure lock Westbrook (made 2nd team last year) Cousins -- ?? he has the advantage of no competition at center to make 1st/2nd/3rd team twice Durant already signed an extension. btw: did he lose money by doing so? That looks like one per draft class or maybe 5 player out of 4 years. imo, that's about right for defining superstars ... 1 or so per year. Note, 7th year + players are already max'd a 30% in the current CBA. 10yr players at 35%. Because of raises, those who qualify as super-max players in their 5th year will always out-pace their draft class in salary significantly by resigning with their current team [edited for clarity per pmac's question]
So basically the most popular players are eligible to be superstars. It's up to the big sponsors and NBA then.
this is good ebcause only those people really bring in the revenue and demand that actually makes a max contract worth it. i like it
I'm not sure what this means. Does it only apply to 5th year players? So, if a player is in his 6th+ year is he eligible for that maximum without meeting those requirements? Can a player sign a contract for 29.99% of the Salary Cap, again, without meeting those requirements?
Pmac, All the 2005 CBA max contract rules still apply with the exception to 5th year players.. It is only a change to 5th year players, so that players on rookie contracts can get a larger max contract earlier instead of waiting to their 7th year. A 6th+ yr player is only eligible to the standard scale, which is governed by years in the league. It tops out at 35% by a player's 10th year. http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
Thanks, I figured it out right before you posted. It's not a change to the max for everyone, just eligible 5th year players.
What other criteria can you actually use? Hollinger? Popularity would only get you in via being an All-star game starter twice in your first 4 years. But then you are also fighting popularity to unseat someone. Also remember, they still have to negotiate a super max salary. It's no guarentee...besides, it is very hard for a player to get voted twice as a starter in the all-star game in their 1st 4 years, without also being worthy of this super-maximum tag. Steve Francis might qualify as an undeserving super-max qualifying via all-star game starter status. Who else in recent memory? Yao? As 1st or 2nd best center in his 4th year, I think he qualified.
And these 5th yr super-max players will continue to always make more than anyone else in their draft class because of annual raises. someone do the math: what will a super-max player like Rose be making in his 7th year (assuming maximum raises) versus a 7th year player who receives the max for his first time.
LeBron/Wade didn't qualify for 30% until their 7th year, but they didn't wait 7 years to sign a max contract. They just took it. They still don't qualify for the 35% super max bracket. They aren't going to refuse to sign a max contract now, because they can get 35% super max after 10 years.
Remember when Kobe was benched in LA as a rookie? What if that was prolonged? Could he have filed a grievance with the league?
At first, I thought a team might try to sabotage their own great young player's chances of getting into the 30% territory. On reflection, I doubt this will happen. The new rule allow a player's OWN TEAM to offer up to 30% cap when he comes off the rookie contract while all other teams can only offer up to 25% cap. Sure, you will likely spend more money on your best young guys, but chances are these guys are worth more than even the max. Also, the pay gap between what you can offer and what another team can offer will give you an even greater advantage in retaining your superstar young players.
This might be a beaten to death topic, but does this effect the current Miami team in any way? Or do the new rules only effect the players' next contracts?
It only effects players coming out of their rookie contract i.e. players entering their 5th year. Lebron, Wade, Bosh are all well beyond their 5th year in the league
Popularity = who the fans want to see = more tickets = justifiably paying them more It does include All-NBA selections which is a more official guage of performance. It says 2 times to qualify. I personally think 1 time in the All-NBA team = 2 All stars selections. You can get voted into the All Star game on prestige on a down year, or not based on performance at all. Still AGAIN, the popular players are what brings in revenue so you can justify the extra cost.
One guy on Twitter brought up an interesting point: Under the new rules, it would actually behoove fans of opposing teams to stuff the ballot boxes for an opponent's young star in order to force that opposing team to spend more on retaining its star. For instance, Kevin Durant (whose extension does not actually kick in until this year, probably making his extension eligible for this "superstar" increase) may now count an extra $3-4M more against the Thunder's salary cap for the next 5 years. That can only help every other team in the Western Conference. Now, say the Wizards were planning to fight for the same stud free agents as the Sixers (or otherwise contend in the East). If I'm a Sixers fan, it would be to my benefit to get John Wall into the starting lineup of the All-Star Game at least twice between now and 2015. While the Wizards would not be obligated to give Wall the money, it's likely that Wall could get it from them. Hence, the Wizards would be less equipped to compete for free agents, etc. from 2015-2020. While this practice will probably never quite catch on to the level where it would have any substantive impact, it's at least something to think about.
I wasn't quite devious enough for that train of thought, but I like it. The thought I had was that it is a small handicap for the big market franchises.
First rule of law, do not use words i.e. superstar, that are key to the concept up to interpretation. Players will fight and sue for not being called superstars because someone didnt vote for them.
